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If anything gets a response from Ken, that will, but not for the reason you think. I'll let Ken tell you why, since this thread is in his honor.

By the way, Ken and I are both old school KISS fans. We were there the first time around, soaking up every drop of KISS.

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I am so sorry guys. Truly and honestly..... I have been so wrapped up in this Halloween thing, I have let some important facets of my life slide a bit... In my own defense, I have checked in frequently just to make sure things were on the up 'n up. I'll be glad when the Halloween thing is done, and put away.

So, to all my good friends, Hello, and much affection to you all.

Kenny.

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Ken, i think that since this thread has your name on it, we should get some Kiss talk in. All you haters and bashers are free to take your shots. It's not like we fans haven't heard it all before.

Anyway, Ken, I had a random KISS cd I burned playing in the car on the way home from work, and the songs that played were Detroit RC (AliveIII version), then Dr. Love (the original, and best, IMO), then...let me think....Save Your Love (great lead solo), Hooligan, Love in Chains, and Radioactive. I actually sat in the driveway listenting to that last one. I love the bass in it.

As far as the solos go, Paul's was best, right out of the gate, but I believe Gene's is more interesting, musically. Ace's is ok,but Peter's , I can barely listen to.

Ok, anybody else want to join in the fun? Bash away, non fans. GeneSimmons.gif

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Jr, you surprise me! I thought Peters showed the most diverse side of Kiss. True to Pete's doo-wop R/B and soul roots. I know it got slammed by the critics, but I really liked it. I thought Gene's was inane, Paul's was so wishy-washy it was almost saccharine, and Ace's most Kiss-like. It was a bad time for the band...

Ken.

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Kiss sucks.

They have no talent.

Mostly, let's not forget the fact that Kiss always has and forever will be f***ing clown shoes.

Date: Album Details: Total

12-04-75 Alive (Gold) 500,000

01-31-76 Alive (Platinum) 1,000,000

04-22-76 Destroyer (Gold) 1,500,000

11-11-76 Destroyer (Platinum) 2,000,000

11-11-76 Rock And Roll Over (Gold) 2,500,000

01-05-77 Rock And Roll Over (Platinum) 3,000,000

01-05-77 Beth (Gold) n/a

02-28-77 Dressed To Kill (Gold) 3,500,000

06-08-77 KISS (Gold) 4,000,000

06-23-77 Hotter Than Hell (Gold) 4,500,000

06-30-77 Love Gun (Gold) 5,000,000

06-30-77 Love Gun (Platinum) 5,500,000

10-14-77 Alive II (Gold) 6,000,000

10-14-77 Alive II (Platinum) 6,500,000

05-16-78 Double Platinum (Gold) 7,000,000

05-16-78 Double Platinum (Platinum) 7,500,000

10-02-78 Gene Simmons (Gold) 8,000,000

10-02-78 Ace Frehley (Gold) 8,500,000

10-02-78 Peter Criss (Gold) 9,000,000

10-02-78 Paul Stanley (Gold) 9,500,000

10-02-78 Gene Simmons (Platinum) 10,000,000

10-02-78 Ace Frehley (Platinum) 10,500,000

10-02-78 Peter Criss (Platinum) 11,000,000

10-02-78 Paul Stanley (Platinum) 11,500,000

06-06-79 Dynasty (Gold) 12,000,000

07-10-79 Dynasty (Platinum) 12,500,000

07-10-79 Dynasty (2x Platinum) 13,500,000

08-16-79 I Was Made For Lovin' You (Gold) n/a

07-30-80 Unmasked (Gold) 14,000,000

12-22-83 Lick It Up (Gold) 14,500,000

12-03-84 Animalize (Gold) 15,000,000

12-12-84 Animalize (Platinum) 15,500,000

11-13-85 Asylum (Gold) 16,000,000

11-17-87 Crazy Nights (Gold) 16,500,000

02-18-88 Crazy Nights (Platinum) 17,000,000

02-01-89 Smashes, Thrashes & Hits (Gold) 17,500,000

02-01-89 Smashes, Thrashes & Hits (Platinum) 18,000,000

12-20-89 Hot In The Shade (Gold) 18,500,000

12-19-90 Lick It Up (Platinum) 19,000,000

07-20-92 Revenge (Gold) 19,500,000

05-09-94 Creatures Of The Night (Gold) 20,000,000

08-24-94 Kiss My Ass (Gold) 20,500,000

10-27-94 Alive III (Gold) 21,000,000

02-26-96 Alive II (2x Platinum) 22,000,000

02-26-96 Smashes, Thrashes & Hits (2x Platinum) 23,000,000

10-18-96 MTV Unplugged (Gold) 23,500,000

05-21-97 You Wanted The Best.. (Gold) 24,000,000

10-22-98 Psycho Circus (Gold) 24,500,000

12-18-01 Box Set (Gold) 25,000,000

KISS' TOTAL US ALBUM SALES TO DATE 37,500,000

KISS' TOTAL GOLD ALBUM DISCS (inc. Solos) 28

KISS' TOTAL PLATINUM DISCS (inc. Solos) 31

If this is how well a band does that sucks and has no talent.... I wonder how a successful band would appear?

I wish I sucked and had as little talent as Kiss does! :rockon: :neener:

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Jr, you surprise me! I thought Peters showed the most diverse side of Kiss. True to Pete's doo-wop R/B and soul roots. I know it got slammed by the critics, but I really liked it. I thought Gene's was inane, Paul's was so wishy-washy it was almost saccharine, and Ace's most Kiss-like. It was a bad time for the band...

Ken.

True, Peter's was the least like a tradition Kiss album, and there were a few songs on there I enjoyed for a time. But over-all, it just wasn't anything special, just kind of blah,IMO. His covers of 'Tossin' and Turnin' and 'That's the Kind of Sugar Papa Likes' were pretty good.

Gene's solo, while goofy for sure, did have some interesting things sprinkled throughout. The female backing vocals are very good, especially on 'Burning Up With Fever'.

'See You Tonight','Always Near You/Nowhere to Hide' are probably my favorites. What was a real treat for true Kiss fans, was the remake of 'See You in Your Dreams', with Rick Neilson's lead solo blistering the tune.

Paul's was, to agree with you, kind of wishy washy. Easily the most pop of the four. He's an underrated vocalist, and that was the highlight of his entire album. Powerful vocals, if not powerful lyrics. (But hey, Kiss has never been lauded as great songwriters) 'Tonight You Belong to Me', 'Move On, and 'Love in Chains' are my favorites here. 'Hold Me,Touch Me' makes my gag reflex work..

Ace's solo, while way weak in the singing, (but we Kiss fans knew that going in) was probably the best, musically. His definately starts out the hottest, with 'Rip it Out'. The one song I thought was awful was the one that sold a million copies,'New York Groove'. 'Snowblind' kicks a$$, and 'Fractured Mirror' is very interesting.

I agree, Ken, with your statement, that it was an ugly time for Kiss, but some good stuff is there. On 'Music From the Elder', 'Dark Light, 'Only You, and 'I' are all good songs, but the writing was on the wall for us Kiss fans by then.

How long did you reject Kiss when they took off the makeup? I bought 'Lick it Up', but my heart wasn't in it. I completely ignored them for maybe 5 years. Oh, I saw the random video, all in pastels and frills. Nah, I'll pass. I think I started to come back when they released 'Forever'. For some reason, I liked that one more than any of their other non-makeup stuff. But I still hadn't bought anything since 'Lick it Up'.

I had converted to cd in that time, but didn't buy any Kiss, until one day I picked up 'Rock and Roll Over' at a used cd place. Man, it was on after that. I bought two or three a week until I had all the stuff I grew up with.I went nuts, discovering all the great stuff over again. It was brand new again. Watchin You, Getwawy, Rock Bottom, Let Me Go, Rock and Roll, Flamin' Youth, Plaster Caster...man, I was in heaven.

then one night, while watching the Music Awards with my wife, they were introduced, and came walking out in full, glory days battle gear, I looked at my wife and said "I don't care what it costs, I'm going". She just said "I know"

Well, now I'm tired of typing. Acesolo.gifGenesolo.gifPaulsolo.gifPetersolo.gif

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  • 3 months later...

Wow, I can't believe I've only just found this thread, and read jr's magnificent post!

I can understand how people felt differently about them was their make-up came off, but as I never went through KISS the first time round, I can pretty much accept whatever I happen to come across nowdays.

I'm not going to comment any further for fear of taking away from the astounding impact of jr's post :)

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