Sweet Jane 61 1 Posted August 13, 2007 Report Share Posted August 13, 2007 Davey Jones is upset that the group isn't in the hall. He said that Jann Wenner of Rolling Stone magazine, and on the board of the hall says The Monkess don't deserve to be in The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. What do you think? Link to post Share on other sites
Steel2Velvet 0 Posted August 13, 2007 Report Share Posted August 13, 2007 Those that feel R&R a serious artform will probably say "No" and those that feel it is simply a conduit to have a good time will probably say "Yes." Don't they already have their stars on the Hollywood Walk of Fame? It don't get much bigger than that! Link to post Share on other sites
OLD 55 6 Posted August 14, 2007 Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 I just voted 'Yes'. They may have started as a vehicle for a TV show, and some of the earlier instrumentation wasn't theirs, but hey ! they actually did have talent. Three of them at least - I'm not really sure if Peter Tork was much more than comedy relief. Anyway, they certainly became 60s Icons and I believe that, while they certainly wouldn't be one of the most talented Groups in the R & R Hall Of Fame, they've earnt a spot there. Link to post Share on other sites
Shawna 1 Posted August 14, 2007 Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 they actually did have talent. Three of them at least - I'm not really sure if Peter Tork was much more than comedy relief. Intriguingly, it was Peter Tork, along with Mike Nesmith, who were the serious musicians in the group. Micky and Davy were just in it for the acting gig. Peter and Mike felt creatively stifled because everything the group did was dictated by the network/management/record company, etc. I've got the Monkees compilation DVDs of all their TV shows (32 per season - not like the 8 or so we see these days per season!) and it's chock full of info on the goings-on during the run of that show. Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky 5 Posted August 14, 2007 Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 (edited) I voted yes too. They belong there for those reasons Darryl, and for another. They originated the music video as a concept, and Mike Nesmith took it a step further. That in and of itself was a huge innovation, and influence on Rock & Roll. By the way, Peter Tork was one of the two "real", trained, musicians. But you know that! Edited August 14, 2007 by Guest that Dang Shawna beats me every time... Link to post Share on other sites
edna 6 Posted August 14, 2007 Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 I voted "no", because they were not -for me- a rock or a pop band and they lasted very little, compared to others. Maybe cause I didn´t live in America, but people from other countries weren´t so familar with them. Link to post Share on other sites
_Laurie_ 11 Posted August 14, 2007 Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 I voted no also...I do like The Monkees, but that doesn't mean they should be in the Hall Of Fame... Link to post Share on other sites
Kevin 3 Posted August 14, 2007 Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 No . they were a satire and parody of Rock and Roll . Should Rich Little be in the Richard Nixon Library/ Museum ? ( as a footnote , perhaps ) Link to post Share on other sites
johnny 1 Posted August 14, 2007 Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 The Simpsons said it best.... "EWWWW, you like the Monkees?!? You know they don't even write their own songs...." I have no idea if they do or don't, but hey, who cares, I just had another chance to quote the Simpsons.... Anyway, after all that my answer is no.... ....god no.... Link to post Share on other sites
Super Ry 71 0 Posted August 14, 2007 Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 "...You know they don't even write their own songs...." Neither did Three Dog Night, and look at them. Link to post Share on other sites
Rayzor 1 Posted August 14, 2007 Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 I voted no because if they were let in than Milli Vanilli would get in! If it were only Tork and Nesmith being inducted I'd reconsider... Link to post Share on other sites
RonJonSurfer 15 Posted August 14, 2007 Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 Many bands in the 60's didn't write their own songs...songwriting was a mass-produced business back then....you had performers, backed by session musicians, singers, etc. The Monkees just had a better system of distribution than most bands...I wouldn't hold that against them. They did the singing on the hits...just like many bands from that era. If the H of F is recognition for the contribution to the world of music...the boys did more than many others and deserve to be there. Micky and Davey were basically actors, but they handled the bulk of the lead vocals...you can have much less success than they did. You may be familiar with this story, but Steven Stills auditioned for The Monkees. He told his musician buddy Peter Tork about it and the rest is history. Mike Nesmith was a video pioneer and a songwriter (Different Drum). I see a solid case for The Monkees to be in the H of F. Link to post Share on other sites
Farin 2 Posted August 14, 2007 Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 Many bands in the ...'s didn't write their own songs...songwriting was a mass-produced business back then....you had performers, backed by session musicians, singers, etc. what was the decade again? Link to post Share on other sites
Sweet Jane 61 1 Posted August 14, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 Farin, did you see I got the poll without asking you to help me...finally catching on...about time for this old chick!! And I voted yes. Link to post Share on other sites
Farin 2 Posted August 14, 2007 Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 yes, I did noticed that I voted for 'no' btw, but then again I was never a big Monkees fan Link to post Share on other sites
RonJonSurfer 15 Posted August 14, 2007 Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 Yep, but that formula produced some great tunes. Link to post Share on other sites
Sweet Jane 61 1 Posted August 14, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 I voted no because if they were let in than Milli Vanilli would get in! If it were only Tork and Nesmith being inducted I'd reconsider... Ray!! At least it was Davey and Mickey really singing...give 'em a break. Come on you want to sing along...I know you do Ray... The Monkees Link to post Share on other sites
_Laurie_ 11 Posted August 14, 2007 Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 I can really sing too...really I can Link to post Share on other sites
Sweet Jane 61 1 Posted August 14, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 I believe you Laurie...I would come and see you sing anytime you give a free concert! Link to post Share on other sites
Earth-Angel 0 Posted August 14, 2007 Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 I voted no as well. They are not rock n roll, no matter which way you look at it. Into a music hall of fame, sure, any other pop-related accolade, sure, but they aint rnr. And I do actually like them Link to post Share on other sites
Shawna 1 Posted August 15, 2007 Report Share Posted August 15, 2007 Reading the posts in this thread I'm a little surprised at how little people know about the Monkees. Probably shouldn't surprise me, but since I was about 6 when they first came on the scene I grew up knowing about them, I guess I think everybody should. Link to post Share on other sites
Mike 2 Posted August 15, 2007 Report Share Posted August 15, 2007 Boyce and Hart = RRHOF Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky 5 Posted August 15, 2007 Report Share Posted August 15, 2007 Reading the posts in this thread I'm a little surprised at how little people know about the Monkees. Probably shouldn't surprise me, but since I was about 6 when they first came on the scene I grew up knowing about them, I guess I think everybody should. Me too Shawna. It's actually a little sad. Link to post Share on other sites
Rayzor 1 Posted August 15, 2007 Report Share Posted August 15, 2007 I didn't ever say that I didn't like the Monkees Sweet Jane. In fact I watched their show every day when I was a kid (they were funny) and I do like some of their tunes. But rock n' roll?? Link to post Share on other sites
_Laurie_ 11 Posted August 15, 2007 Report Share Posted August 15, 2007 I don't consider them rock and roll either....but that doesn't mean I don't like them...I like the Monkees alot...I grew up watching them on tv also...so I guess it was more like they were just entertainers to me, not a rock and roll band.... I was reading on Grand Funk the other day....I would really like to see them in the hall of fame...I thought they were in it already... Link to post Share on other sites
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