_Jayson_ Posted December 29, 2004 Report Share Posted December 29, 2004 caring more about making their guitars make noise So to be a good grunge band you have to have a mediocre guitar player? Musical talent should not be a bad thing. I think Nirvana is a good band, but Kurt sucked at playing guitar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamisammy29 Posted December 29, 2004 Report Share Posted December 29, 2004 Slash and Izzy are the best guitar du ever man! They definitely rank up there with the best of all time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mairi Posted December 29, 2004 Report Share Posted December 29, 2004 *starts air guitaring to sweet child o' mine* hell yeah best duo! the thing is, during the solo in sweet child o mine, i always listen to Izzy's part and dont actually concentrate on the solo. i annoy myself by doing that. Good part though. bleh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted December 29, 2004 Report Share Posted December 29, 2004 Yes linkinparkpycho i am the sh*t While I find it admirable that you love your band, don't you think a Linkin Park fan site might be more appropriate ? This is , simply, songfacts, which , while we all have our favorites, caters to an appreciation of all types of music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamisammy29 Posted December 29, 2004 Report Share Posted December 29, 2004 Kevey Dude, and everyone else...lay off the Psycho. Linkinpark is a good kid, and her musical taste will most likely develop over time with the help of Songfacts. You wanna shoot down the band, that's one thing...but don't shoot down the kid. Not everyone yet realizes that the Stones ARE the World's Greatest Rock 'N' Roll Band...but they eventually will see the light. Rock on, LPP, and eb'rybody!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenacious_Peaches Posted December 29, 2004 Report Share Posted December 29, 2004 Look at Sammy trying to keep the peace. I love me some Sammy. :: I think we are all probably a little obsessive about our favorite groups, but it is good to branch out and learn about other types of music. I was just saying the other day that I really do like Linkin Park. I love "One Step Closer"; any song where they scream "shut up" is a good thing in my book. BTW, Tenacious D is the greatest band on earth... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamisammy29 Posted December 29, 2004 Report Share Posted December 29, 2004 BTW, Tenacious D is the greatest band on earth... No, really, it's the Stones. Trust me on this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenacious_Peaches Posted December 29, 2004 Report Share Posted December 29, 2004 Don't intercourse with me, Sammy. :: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott Posted December 30, 2004 Report Share Posted December 30, 2004 So to be a good grunge band you have to have a mediocre guitar player? Musical talent should not be a bad thing. No, it's just that shouldn't be the main focus, and I thought I made myself clear by saying 'making noise' rather than 'playing well'. Making noise would fall under the works of Poison and the like, whereas 'playing well' is brilliantly demonstrated by a group like Soundgarden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idiot Posted January 5, 2005 Report Share Posted January 5, 2005 NIRVANA just then VERY closely folowed bi alice in chains or smashing pumpkins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MindCrime Posted June 27, 2006 Report Share Posted June 27, 2006 Neil Young and Crazy Horse is my favorite grunger band... Agreed. & I might add, on a trail note, a few others, who are often overlooked & not considered or accredited for their placement in influencing the genre, while paving the way for the outlook. Jimi Hendrix Heart / (Lovemongers) Steeler’s Wheel Cheap Trick SuperTramp The Knack Sonic Youth Meatpuppets The Germs MC5 Mountain Montrose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MindCrime Posted June 27, 2006 Report Share Posted June 27, 2006 Alice In Chains is my favorite, because Cantrell & Staley’s songwriting is the best out of the grunge scene. Layne’s voice is by far better than Cornell or Vender. Their albums are by far the most consistent, with great guitar and by far the best grungy sound. RIP Layne Very well put & I concur about Jerry Cantrell being the most talented guitarist of the bunch, but not about Layne being a better singer than Chris Cornell. It wasn't about image, but ironically, the grunge "image" (which was not caring about what you are wearing) became one of the most popular images of the 90s. Ah, yes… I distinctively remember what the ideal outfit was in the Hessian ’93 Circuit… torn up band / concert shirts wretched with blood – puke stains over gnarly cat-fur flannel & corduroy pants strapped by a 3 ft wallet chain for the belt. Then we (my buddies) would go about washing our real long hair with this special type of porcupine soap that had to be purchased at aroma shops & dying it with kool-aid after first bleach by hydro-peroxide. You can call it a cross between punk and heavy metal, but i find it much softer than either of these. GUNS N' ROSES RULE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Too true \ true that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MindCrime Posted June 27, 2006 Report Share Posted June 27, 2006 This has to be one of the most interesting threads that I've ever read on this site, it's a shame that it was started shortly after I left. I apologize for bumping this old & dead thread with my casual trio seperate posts, I just wanted to have my part in it, since I wasn't here for the active debate. In order, based on favorites; as I’ve listened & reviewed the entire discography for each group... Alice in Chains Soundgarden Pearl Jam STP Nirvana --worth a mention-- Candlebox Melvins Mudhoney Screaming Trees Veruca Salt Hole Foo Fighters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blind-fitter Posted June 27, 2006 Report Share Posted June 27, 2006 Fudge Tunnel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afroceltduck Posted July 3, 2006 Report Share Posted July 3, 2006 Just by surviving this long, I think Pearl Jam might well be the best grunge band. I think of them more as a rock band though. Just a plain rock band. I think Nirvana had the best grunge attitude and look, so they're up there as well even if they weren't the best musicians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blind-fitter Posted July 5, 2006 Report Share Posted July 5, 2006 Although I can't agree with you on Pearl Jam, (who suck, IMO), in a way you've hit one nail right on the head. So many of the bands touted in this thread- Stone Temple Pilots, Pearl Jam, Alice In Chains et al- are/were little more than (heavy) rock in a slightly more comfortable disguise, (without spandex, "big hair", etc). In my view, the label "grunge" (as it was originally applied) encompassed implicit elements of "punk-rock attitude" in terms of ideas, actions and musicianship, and an opposition to pompous "rock posturing". Therefore the best "grunge" bands were Mudhoney and Nirvana, both of whom were "more punk, less metal" in their leanings than those other bands tagged as "grunge"*. (*Grunge must surely be one of the most lazily-raised "flags of convenience" of all time...) If however, one views "grunge" more as a strand of "heavy rock" then...well Soundgarden defecate from a considerable height upon all these other pretenders to the crown, don't they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Levis Posted July 5, 2006 Report Share Posted July 5, 2006 If however, one views "grunge" more as a strand of "heavy rock" then...well Soundgarden defecate from a considerable height upon all these other pretenders to the crown, don't they? You're just saying that because you like them But I (who like Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Alice in Chains etc.) do agree with you on the grunge flag of convenience thing. It's not really a genre as much as a fashion statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blind-fitter Posted July 5, 2006 Report Share Posted July 5, 2006 You're just saying that because you like them You've rumbled me, Levis! But I (who like Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Alice in Chains etc.) do agree with you on the grunge flag of convenience thing. It's not really a genre as much as a fashion statement. I've always thought "grunge" to be one of the most meaningless labels ever attached to a musical/fashion trend... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Levis Posted July 6, 2006 Report Share Posted July 6, 2006 All in the name of sales! Calvin Klein did a show based on the 'grunge' look around that time, I believe. I wonder how much the stuff cost... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MindCrime Posted July 6, 2006 Report Share Posted July 6, 2006 In my view, the label "grunge" (as it was originally applied) encompassed implicit elements of "punk-rock attitude" in terms of ideas, actions and musicianship, and an opposition to pompous "rock posturing". Therefore the best "grunge" bands were Mudhoney and Nirvana, both of whom were "more punk, less metal" in their leanings than those other bands tagged as "grunge"*. True, Nirvana's only "actual Grunge" albums were Bleach & Incesticide. Pearl Jam had a slight grunge novelty purpose when they were known as Mother Love Bone with the late Andy Wood, this was before Eddie Veddar stepped in with his Mookie Blaylock #10 love. Most of the others from Seattle were only heavy-set on the boundaries, with their own infusion, yet despite being different musically, they were served being veiled behind Cobain's shadow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MindCrime Posted July 6, 2006 Report Share Posted July 6, 2006 (edited) [*]Jimi Hendrix [*]Heart [*]Replacements [*]Smashing Pumpkins [*]Pearl Jam [*]Soundgarden [*]Alice in Chains [*]Mudhoney [*]Screaming Trees This soundtrack from the 1992 Cameron Crowe film "Singles", a forgettable romantic comedy featuring Matt Dillon & Bridgett Fonda, accurately depicts the Seattle sound_base at it's best, without needing the inclusion of Nirvana. Edited July 6, 2006 by Guest damn pic was all smudged Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invisible_r Posted July 6, 2006 Report Share Posted July 6, 2006 it's a freat soundtrack. I wouldn't call the movie forgettable, i liked it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MindCrime Posted July 6, 2006 Report Share Posted July 6, 2006 (edited) Not to sound adolescent, but what is "freat" ? I agree about the movie however, it was one of my favorites from back in the day, unfortunately most peeps that I know, didn't care much for it. Edited July 6, 2006 by Guest repeated use of words, I'm such an ditz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invisible_r Posted July 7, 2006 Report Share Posted July 7, 2006 Not to sound adolescent, but what is "freat" ? right... i apologise for the typo, f is right next to g Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afroceltduck Posted July 7, 2006 Report Share Posted July 7, 2006 I think "grunge" wasn't just about the look or sound, but the fact that the "grunge movement" was centered in Seattle. It wasn't really *that* different from other forms of rock like classic rock and punk, but was given a name because it was seen as a new thing coming from the Pacific Northwest. I guess what I mean to say is that grunge easily could have been called "Seattle Rock" too. Blind-fitter, I think you're more right than I am. Soundgarden is the best grunge band because they combined the heavy music AND one of the best singers of the 90s rock scene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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