MindCrime Posted July 11, 2012 Report Posted July 11, 2012 I'm not saying Beyonce is bad, but that particular song is terrible. I'm not surprised that it was a commercial failure.
Rayzor Posted July 11, 2012 Report Posted July 11, 2012 What I'm saying is, Beyonce is one of the few consistently fantastic modern mainstream pop artists out there. There's a lot of crap out there, but Beyonce isn't crap. Huh? How do you figure? Did you not see her songs? All too many are like that, repetitive and no real message. Was Beyonce even one of the writers? Probably not as she has about as much brains as Kelly Pickler. The girls nowadays are used for their looks and their voice... no real creative talent.
Farin Posted July 11, 2012 Report Posted July 11, 2012 The girls nowadays are used for their looks and their voice... no real creative talent.You're saying that as if that was different in the past decades
miamisammy29 Posted July 11, 2012 Author Report Posted July 11, 2012 You're saying that as if that was different in the past decades Apparently, you've never seen Patti Smith.
Farin Posted July 11, 2012 Report Posted July 11, 2012 or you Beth Ditto? seriously, of course there are exceptions, quite a few of them in fact, but the "pretty face / no artistic talent" scheme is really not a new invention...
RockyRaccoon Posted July 11, 2012 Report Posted July 11, 2012 That meme is also applicable to 1963: There's always been stupid lyrics, there will continue to be. "Be-bop-a-lu-la she's my baby/be-bop-a-lu-la and I don't mean maybe" Also stupid. Doesn't make the songs bad, but there's been dumb lyrics for a long time.
Rayzor Posted July 11, 2012 Report Posted July 11, 2012 Apparently, you've never seen Patti Smith. Janis Joplin was another who certainly didn't make it on her looks. If she looked good then you know you've smoked too many bones.
TheLizard Posted July 11, 2012 Report Posted July 11, 2012 I've always found Janis Joplin attractive. But the latter statement might be true about me too...
TheLizard Posted July 11, 2012 Report Posted July 11, 2012 Also: That's absurd. Bad lyrics can rarely ruin a good song and good ones can rarely save a bad song. It's about the music, and her music is almost always good. As far as her being sold on her looks and not writing or producing her own stuff: Look at the girl groups of the 60's. Are you going to tell me The Supremes aren't any good either?
Rayzor Posted July 11, 2012 Report Posted July 11, 2012 Who cares about the Supremes? I don't like them so no, they're no good!
Rayzor Posted July 12, 2012 Report Posted July 12, 2012 Ready to pull your own arm off yet? That way you got something to hit me with...
Jenny Posted July 13, 2012 Report Posted July 13, 2012 My favorite artist is Billy Joel, but I don't like every single one of his songs. Uptown Girl for one, I hate, and I can say the same about any artist I like. I don't like that Beyonce song, either, but I do like many others of hers. I think she has a beautiful voice. As far as image, it's not just women who are used for their looks and not talent....look at any boy band out there.
Rayzor Posted July 13, 2012 Report Posted July 13, 2012 Not just boy bands... Corey Hart, Rick Springfield, A-Ha, John Schneider, Tom Wopat, Justin Beiber... (how most of these guys got a record deal I'll never know)
Rayzor Posted July 14, 2012 Report Posted July 14, 2012 yup. my mom has the lp cuz she thought he was hot. He sounded better than Schneider, actually. But the music given to him was awful. Schneider had half-decent tunes to choose from at least. After they finished acting they were able to concentrate more on singing (yay for us!)
Rayzor Posted July 14, 2012 Report Posted July 14, 2012 From the album "Tryin' To Outrun The Wind" (which featured several Top 10 and #1 Country hits) I'm Gonna Leave You Tomorrow - John Schneider 1985 Here's a song that only made it to #18 and honestly finding anything by Tom Wopat is hard to do. This isn't the album my mom owns, but you can still hear the difference in style. A Little Bit Closer - Tom Wopat 1988 Schneider released several albums hitting #1 on the Country chart a half-dozen times. I've been poking around but haven't found Wopat amongst any Top 10 list. In the end, they were given contracts because girls would throw their panties onto the stage.
Shawna Posted July 14, 2012 Report Posted July 14, 2012 ooo and it's time for more Six Degrees fun! Shawna = Tom Wopat Shawna's friends with Donna, whose nephew is the son of Tom Wopat's '80s live-in girlfriend.
Rayzor Posted July 14, 2012 Report Posted July 14, 2012 omg... is there anyone your not seperated by only 6 degrees?
Shawna Posted July 14, 2012 Report Posted July 14, 2012 omg... is there anyone your not seperated by only 6 degrees? "I read somewhere that everybody on this planet is separated by only six other people. Six degrees of separation between us and everyone else on this planet. The President of the United States, a gondolier in Venice, just fill in the names. I find it extremely comforting that we're so close. I also find it like Chinese water torture, that we're so close because you have to find the right six people to make the right connection... I am bound, you are bound, to everyone on this planet by a trail of six people." ~ Ouisa Kitteridge in Six Degrees of Separation (Featuring Will Smith in one of his first-ever movies)
Rayzor Posted July 16, 2012 Report Posted July 16, 2012 Heaven and Hell are exactly the same, except there is no beer or bacon in Hell.
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