invisible_r Posted January 31, 2005 Report Share Posted January 31, 2005 My friend and I were having a discussion the other day and he said that when a band releases a best of, they are basically over. at first i disagreed with him, but when i thought about it a bit more, i found there was a bit of truth in there. what do you think? sorry if this has been discussed before Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_jr_ Posted January 31, 2005 Report Share Posted January 31, 2005 It's a sure sign in some cases. Not all cases, though. Look at Elton John. His fist G.H. came out in what, 75 or 76? I think a sure sign is when a bands put one out when they've only released 2-3 albums. In other instances, they'll sometimes put one out with 1 or 2 new cuts, just to bide their time until they can release another full cd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcM Posted January 31, 2005 Report Share Posted January 31, 2005 I think GH compilations are only good for introducing a new listener to a groups music... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invisible_r Posted January 31, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2005 i totally agree with that, with one exception, "staring at the sea" by the Cure, which had B sides as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katie_sane Posted January 31, 2005 Report Share Posted January 31, 2005 That's why I reckon Best Of cds are an excellent invention as I get to catch up on key points in music history for one low price LOL. And I have a lot to catch up on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy1104 Posted January 31, 2005 Report Share Posted January 31, 2005 I think a sure sign is when a bands put one out when they've only released 2-3 albums. I agree with JR. Greatest Hits albums after a couple of albums would be a sign the band has nothing new to come up with so instead of running into a studio to produce a new album, they re-release what they have. One that comes to mind is Meat Loaf. I know he had a few albums (4 or 5) but basically his Bat Out Of Hell album is his greatest hits album. Not much came from him afterward (BOOH2 and Welcome To My Neighborhood were tragic mistakes). On the other hand Greatest Hits albums of solid bands do not mean the band is faltering. Two bands that come to mind are The Eagles and Chicago. In the case of Chicago they have some thirty plus albums so a greatest hits album only highlights their pop hits. Somewhat the same for the Eagles. JR: Elton was a great example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baccaruda Posted January 31, 2005 Report Share Posted January 31, 2005 I still say Foghat is making a comeback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Joe Posted January 31, 2005 Report Share Posted January 31, 2005 when a band releases a best of, they are basically over. That's not necessarily so. Most "Best Ofs" are released by record companies, not bands. It generally means that the companies have not had anything by the particular band to release for some time. It can also mean that that band has switched labels but the original company still owns rights to past stuff. Or, it can sometimes be done to take advantage of the fact that the band has a new album in the works. The big, successful bands like The Stones, The Beatles, The Kinks, etc. can have several Best Of releases over the years, though they are still working and recording great new music. Suffice it to say that Best Of's are usually a ploy to make money. How mercantile! But for people who are just discovering classic rock bands, Best Of's are a blessing. The best Best Of's are the ones we burn ourselves. Shhhh . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edna Posted January 31, 2005 Report Share Posted January 31, 2005 That's not necessarily so. Most "Best Ofs" are released by record companies, not bands. And that´s absolutelly true. The "Best of" records are a marketing trick in most of the cases, I worked in record labels and know something about it. And when they make a "Best of", they´ll never include ALL the real hits... so in the next "best of" they can put a couple of hits and they will keep on earning money. And these are the words of a A&R who used to be my boss... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MindCrime Posted January 31, 2005 Report Share Posted January 31, 2005 Suffice it to say that Best Of's are usually a ploy to make money. How mercantile! But for people who are just discovering classic rock bands, Best Of's are a blessing. Explains why Queen has like 7 Greatest Hit CD's & none of them are in the right order. :: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invisible_r Posted February 1, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2005 well, just to prove your point, i just saw an ad for "the best of east 17"! they havent been around in ages, i remember them from when i was 10 or something! werent even that good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxy Posted February 3, 2005 Report Share Posted February 3, 2005 well, just to prove your point, i just saw an ad for "the best of east 17"! they havent been around in ages, i remember them from when i was 10 or something! werent even that good! I still quite like the song 'Steam'.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invisible_r Posted February 3, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2005 i cant remember which one that was, i remember liking the one that went "when the thunder calls you from the mountain high, got to spread your wings and fly". but they looked soo ridiculous! i was a take that girl myself... (embarassing past) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxy Posted February 3, 2005 Report Share Posted February 3, 2005 Heres a blast from the past for you rachel: when the thunder calls you, from the mountain's high, it´s time to spread your wings and fly, (spread your wings and fly) when the thunder calls you, under purple sun to the plase where horse´s run when i saw your face i knew you were the one in a sky that filleds with rain a ray of sun i called you on the phone said your happy on your own when i heard you bodie cry for my loove your bodie´s calling me your bódie´s calling i think im fallin (woooow) chorus a picture in my mind a vision in a dream when the storm destroyed the bridge i walked across have you ever fell alone when you stood within i croud on a path you thougt you knew but feel alone your bodie´s calling me your bódie´s calling i think im fallin (woooow) chorus i all confused like a child whit a choice of toys so much to gain so much to lose like a pain you endure more then enjoy i guess i´m goin crazy everyone´s tellin me so do you feel the same well it´s all i need to know chorus when the thunder calls you (when the thunder) from the mountain's high it´s time to spread your wings and fly (spread your wings and fly) when the thunder calls you (when it calls you) under purple sun to the place were horse´s run (were the horse´s run) when the thunder calls you (when it calls you) from the mountain's high (from a mountin high) it´s time to spread your wings and fly (spread your wings and fly) when the thunder calls you (when the thunder) to the place where horse´s run And here's a blast for me:!!: Steam Call me for the pleasure You can call me for the pain Call me on the phone Or on the mental plane I'll be the freak you need I contain what U came 4 Come without Karma To destruct the dancefloor Rise to the top, never stop Drop like cream U bring the body and I'll bring the steam Love can love you Love can heal you Love can see you Love can feel you Love can warm you (oh babe) Love can calm you Love will help you Love won't harm you Steam, steam There's no need to be afraid Steam, steam Let the lake of love flow Steam, steam 2 night let's become one soul Steam, x4 Steam, like a cream dream Never stop rising I'll rub you like a wave Going out while the tides in Precious bubbilicious Hard or nice n' easy Smooth with the move to sooth Dry or greasy Here is your harmony Here is your friend Kindred spirit of ethereal blend Meet me on a cloud Go on a journey, sure I'll take your body on a mystery tour The clock upon your wall Is tickin' slower and slower Time disappears as I go lower and lower I know your final fantasy But I can't repeat that Doubting about me Bet you doubt, I'll defeat that I'm your spiritual dancer Your emotion enhancer Anyway you wanna go Whether below or on top I'll love you down All around in and out and all about I got your drinkable water I'm your lover non stop Outside it's raining but inside is wet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invisible_r Posted February 3, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2005 oh yeah, now i remember! definitely a blast from the past ! how long ago was it? thats what i meant when i said in another thread that that 90s show in the bbc made me feel very nostalgic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxy Posted February 3, 2005 Report Share Posted February 3, 2005 From what I can find I think "Thunder" was 1992 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invisible_r Posted February 3, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2005 yeah, so i was right when i said i was ten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Addictedtoclassic Posted February 3, 2005 Report Share Posted February 3, 2005 My friend and I were having a discussion the other day and he said that when a band releases a best of, they are basically over. at first i disagreed with him, but when i thought about it a bit more, i found there was a bit of truth in there. what do you think? sorry if this has been discussed before Sometimes "Best Of" is the only way to bring all the really good songs onto one album when the original albums are now out of print or just hard to find. It's also a good way to introduce a good older band to the new generation of listeners. It's also cheaper than trying to hunt down 6 albums and buy them all even though sometimes they only contain a couple songs on each that are good but didn't make it on the "Best Of" album. But I don't think it spells the end for everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edna Posted February 3, 2005 Report Share Posted February 3, 2005 Sometimes "Best Of" is the only way to bring all the really good songs onto one album when the original albums are now out of print or just hard to find. It's also a good way to introduce a good older band to the new generation of listeners. It's also cheaper than trying to hunt down 6 albums and buy them all even though sometimes they only contain a couple songs on each that are good but didn't make it on the "Best Of" album. But I don't think it spells the end for everyone. I agree with you, Addict. In fact, I love some "Best ofs". It only bothers me when it´s a compilation of songs I know so well coz I have the original album, so when, for instance, "You won´t see me" is over, I NEED to listen to "Nowhere man"... that´s a soundtrack which can´t be broken... That was very annoying with the Stones, coz they had many "Best of" and I was so used to the albums... There is also some jewels in the albums which will never be on a "Greatest Hits", so you´ll miss some good songs... My fave compilations are those which have the top hits of some year... you can find relics there! But yes, I´ve done myself lots of "Best of" on tapes and cds for me, for my friends... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Addictedtoclassic Posted February 3, 2005 Report Share Posted February 3, 2005 The worst part is when they stick a couple unreleased songs on a "Best Of" compilation which almost forces you to purchase it if you ever want to hear these songs. Bastards...! I'm wondering who has the most "Greatest Hits" compilations. I would have to guess either Bob Dylan or The Beatles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrampledUnderFoot Posted February 3, 2005 Report Share Posted February 3, 2005 Just thought I'd mention that The Who has a really great Best Of cd. I'm pretty sure it's the newest one to date. It's called Back by Popular Demand or something along those lines. I have it and it's very good. Anyone else own it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiggsUK Posted February 4, 2005 Report Share Posted February 4, 2005 If I've got nothing by a band but always liked what I've heard, I will get a 'best of' nowadays, as I haven't the time to start at the beginning. If it is a band that I already have a progression of albums however, I find it hard to listen to a 'best of', because it just doesn't seem right somehow. Regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edna Posted February 4, 2005 Report Share Posted February 4, 2005 I'm wondering who has the most "Greatest Hits" compilations. I would have to guess either Bob Dylan or The Beatles. I would say Bob Dylan... I have seen tons of best ofs of all kinds... The release of the Beatles song has always been more under control... McCartney is richer than Dylan!! (that means he is wiser...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Levis Posted February 4, 2005 Report Share Posted February 4, 2005 I don't think a GH album means a band is over. It seems to be not only a way to make more money but maybe even to organise a bunch of albums. As soon as I read this thread i thought of rhcp. They came out with a best of in '92 and now they've got out another best of and i don't think its fair to say they're over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Addictedtoclassic Posted February 4, 2005 Report Share Posted February 4, 2005 I would say Bob Dylan... I have seen tons of best ofs of all kinds... The release of the Beatles song has always been more under control... McCartney is richer than Dylan!! (that means he is wiser...) I think Dylan has more "Greatest Hits" albums, but The Beatles are featured on way more compilation albums than Dylan. Same with The Who, they have a bunch of "Greatest Hits" and are featured on a bunch of compilation albums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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