scott Posted April 12, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2008 There are loads of vocals in symphonic music, Beet's ninth handel's Messiah lots of latin lots of choral stuff I know where you're coming from... I just like to nit-pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Seeker Posted April 12, 2008 Report Share Posted April 12, 2008 Then you've got the language barrier again... if you don't speak Latin/German/Italian etc, the vocals don't matter that much. But I know what you mean, and you know what I mean too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farin Posted April 12, 2008 Report Share Posted April 12, 2008 Also, beethoven bach and mozart were all german... but I think we can all understand what they're communicating. I think Martin will want to object... sorry, austrian. but that means the spoke german right? sorry for being geographically ignorant. ...... I think bach was german tho. actually no, I wouldn't object to that [history lesson] there actually was no country called "Germany" until 1871 at the time of Beethoven, Bach, Mozart there was the "Holy Roman Empire (of the German Nation)" which consisted of many, many bigger and smaller Duchies, Principalities and a couple Kingdoms so, eg Mozart was born in Salzburg, which is present day Austria, but in 1756 it was the capital of the "Archbishopric of Salzburg" (per wikipedia, not that you think I knew that ) but from today's view they're all part of the German culture and thus considered and refered to as "German" composers [/ history lesson] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Seeker Posted April 12, 2008 Report Share Posted April 12, 2008 From this we may conclude that German history lessons are better than English ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLizard Posted April 12, 2008 Report Share Posted April 12, 2008 I only speak English. Our choir did three songs for UIL competition yesterday. One was English, one was Latin, one was Venezuelan. All three, if I may say so, were awesome. Save the arts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Levis Posted April 12, 2008 Report Share Posted April 12, 2008 No one mentioned the monetary aspect? A career in music or film or some related field isn't regarded as very stable. Something like accounting or law is more likely to bring in the big bucks. Therefore, more pressure to take up and excel in one of the latter subjects and music is to be just a hobby if that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted April 13, 2008 Report Share Posted April 13, 2008 i always thought that everyone knew this info and just didn't want to do anything about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Laurie_ Posted April 13, 2008 Report Share Posted April 13, 2008 Very good points made here...and very true Radhi, and also it's been known that students who excel in music and the arts also do better in other subjects as well... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Joe Posted April 13, 2008 Report Share Posted April 13, 2008 Are the girls still pretty in high school? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLizard Posted April 13, 2008 Report Share Posted April 13, 2008 Some of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Joe Posted April 13, 2008 Report Share Posted April 13, 2008 Then some things never change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted April 13, 2008 Report Share Posted April 13, 2008 I've taken some music classes in college and I've found that it's really something that can't be taught. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLizard Posted April 13, 2008 Report Share Posted April 13, 2008 Theory can, but only if you're into it in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foolonthehill Posted April 13, 2008 Report Share Posted April 13, 2008 I've taken some music classes in college and I've found that it's really something that can't be taught. Definetly true. You can teach someone to be technically brilliant, but they have to come up with the musicality themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lea Posted April 17, 2008 Report Share Posted April 17, 2008 After writing hundreds of letters, making more phone calls then I care to even think about and attending numerous demonstrations to keep Outcome Based Education out of Oregon schools I finally said s*** it and home schooled my daughter for three years. I used ABEKA curriculum and video's. By the time she was in sixth grade and I had her tested she tested in the collage level for most everything. It was expensive but well worth it. It was very important to us that she learned the basics. As most of you can tell from my posts, my spelling and grammar is terrible. That's why I used the best curriculum I could find and belonged to a very good home school group. That's not counting the private school that also used ABEKA video's and curriculum I put her in for a year and a half. Or the foreign language classes she also attended. As for the arts, she was exposed to every form of the arts that I had available Portland is two hours from us and they have great plays and concerts etc. Then I put her back in Public School and it was stright down hill from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawna Posted April 17, 2008 Report Share Posted April 17, 2008 Lea, I don't recall learning a dang thing from my elementary school teachings in grammar and vocabulary. What I know about grammar, punctuation, and just words in general, I learned from reading. Reading. Reading, reading, and more reading. On another note, regarding the music and how it parlays into other aspects of life: one of my new classmates is 17 years old, has been home schooled her entire life, plays piano, and is screaming past the rest of us in speed tests on the Stenograph. We figure it's due to the piano experience. And perhaps her ability to super-focus. However, she is sorely lacking in social skills. She was a heinously pompous little **yotch at first. She's gotten a little better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lea Posted April 17, 2008 Report Share Posted April 17, 2008 That is why I put my daughter back in to the main stream. She is very extroverted it would have been cruel to isolate her. She got the basics from homeschooling and then returned to public school in 6th grade. We were between a rock and a hard place. She got to choose. It was becoming obvious she was very unhappy with homeschooling even tho she had chosen it. She was just to isolated and didn't feel like she fit in with the other home schooled kids. She is also ADHD so that is a whole different set of problems. We let her go back but like I said, it was all down hill from that time on. Accademicly she learned nothing at all. But she did get well socialized. She has always been well liked by her peers and did all the typical stuff kids do and then some. But, if I hadn't home schooled her I honestly feel she would be illiterate. She has a good job and a good future now and that's all we ever wanted for her. I come from a family of readers and could read before I entered school myself. I love books When I was in school in WYO. they had just started teaching site reading and weren't teaching phonics. They were trying something new so I never learned to read, spell or punctuate properly. If I see a word I can tell if it's not right but unless I use a dictionary I can't spell it myself like most people can I just wasn't taught that way. I do audio books these days because my eyes have gotten so bad and DH goes nuts if I try to read a book If he sees me pick up a book, he needs my attention so after being married to him for so long I just gave up. Just like I did with writing poetry. He's getting the same way about the audio books now :beady: To bad for him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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