Slowhand Posted July 21, 2007 Report Share Posted July 21, 2007 The Nirvana thread was pretty fun, so let's get another fanboi debate going: I say that Green Day ushered in Punk Rock in the same way that Nirvana ushered in Grunge. Green Day paved the way for Blink 182, The All American Rejects, Cartel, Fall Out Boy, Good Charlotte, My Chemical Romance, Sum 41, Taking Back Sunday, and Yellowcard. They were also responsible, for better or worse, for the three cord song in all it's catchy monotony. So, I pose the question to you fishes, are they underrated, overrated, or accuratly rated in history up to this point? This is a different argument then Nirvana because Green Day is still alive and producing new material, but have been doing so for almost 20 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayzor Posted July 21, 2007 Report Share Posted July 21, 2007 Oh you poor soul. If you think Green Day ushered in Punk Rock then you have much to learn. Perhaps they made it "cool" again, but they simply played music that was popularized 20 years before they were even a band. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skybluesky Posted July 21, 2007 Report Share Posted July 21, 2007 Slowhand, you sweet kid. Rush out and get some Clash, Ramones, Blondie, New York Dolls, Television, Dead Kennedys immediately. Apologies for any one I've left off the list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLizard Posted July 21, 2007 Report Share Posted July 21, 2007 Green Day is a decent but unoriginal Ramones tribute band. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted July 21, 2007 Report Share Posted July 21, 2007 I'd say that Green Day is very influential, but not in a good way. They popularized a genre that isn't supposed to be popular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foolonthehill Posted July 22, 2007 Report Share Posted July 22, 2007 I don't really like Green Day and I wouldn't really call them 'punk' either. I'd say they're more of pop with punk influences. There was a short period of time where I did like them, but, hey, so did everyone else (everyone I knew at least). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slowhand Posted July 22, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 22, 2007 Oh you poor soul. If you think Green Day ushered in Punk Rock then you have much to learn. Perhaps they made it "cool" again, but they simply played music that was popularized 20 years before they were even a band. That music was made before they were a band, I'll give you that, but at that point in time the punk scene was still very much underground. People (by in large) didn't start hearing about bands like The Clash, The Violent Femmes, The Sex Pistols, until the late 80's, which is right about the time Green Day was forming up. Dookie, their mainstream breakout, came out in 1994, but their earliest EP came out in 1989. ... and I never said Green Day was the FIRST. They did, however, usher in a completly new genre of music. Perhaps "Punk Rock" was the wrong term for it, Punk-Pop might have been a better term. Wether or not you like them, you can't turn on the radio today without hearing a blatent Green Day knock off. Maybe that's because Green Day knocked off the Clash and the Pistols, but for a wide audience Green Day was the first, just like Nirvana wasn't the first grunge band but were responsible for the revolution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blind-fitter Posted July 22, 2007 Report Share Posted July 22, 2007 I'm sorry, but I've never heard such guff in my entire life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ombre Vivante Posted July 22, 2007 Report Share Posted July 22, 2007 According to Slowhand, ? And The Mysterians, The Ramones, The Stooges, Sparks, and the whole new wave of Post Punk bands never existed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ombre Vivante Posted July 22, 2007 Report Share Posted July 22, 2007 I hate green day and their dookie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c_s_1987 Posted July 23, 2007 Report Share Posted July 23, 2007 Yes, they did make punk rock popular again, so I guess Green Day are one of the most influential bands in the world today. However, I agree with BF. Punk Rock was very popular when the members of Green Day were still in nappies. Well, maybe not in nappies, but pretty young anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slowhand Posted July 23, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2007 Yes, they did make punk rock popular again, so I guess Green Day are one of the most influential bands in the world today. However, I agree with BF. Punk Rock was very popular when the members of Green Day were still in nappies. Well, maybe not in nappies, but pretty young anyway. I'm not claiming they stated Punk Rock, just that they most definietly brought it to a mainstream audience and brought it more exposure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted July 23, 2007 Report Share Posted July 23, 2007 They only brought it to a younger (read: prepubescent) audience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slowhand Posted July 24, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2007 They only brought it to a younger (read: prepubescent) audience. In the past few years, this is most definietly true. As far as I'm concerned, Green Day started to die after Insomniac, and then complely died after Nimrod. Warning and American Idiot aren't what I'm arguing here, that's popefied fluff aimed at 12 year olds and I know it. However, their first mainstream album, Dookie, was aimed at the adult alternative audience, the mid to late 20's crowd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted July 24, 2007 Report Share Posted July 24, 2007 yes, making it all the more appealing to prepubescent boys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny Posted July 25, 2007 Report Share Posted July 25, 2007 Green Day tried to be political and edgy with second rate protest/political songs but failed miserable. I think the older fans (people over 15) who were well aware of this band before American Idiot knew that they were never more than a good pop-punk band. Now I think bands changing musical direction is good, and even though it might turn out crap they still meant it. But for some reason I felt like GD were putting it on.... But hey, that's just my view.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slowhand Posted July 25, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2007 Green Day tried to be political and edgy with second rate protest/political songs but failed miserable. I think the older fans (people over 15) who were well aware of this band before American Idiot knew that they were never more than a good pop-punk band. Now I think bands changing musical direction is good, and even though it might turn out crap they still meant it. But for some reason I felt like GD were putting it on.... But hey, that's just my view.... I actually agree with you, Green Day has become too political recently, but their old stuff is still amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny Posted July 25, 2007 Report Share Posted July 25, 2007 Yeah I agree with you too. "When I Come Around" is awesome. "Good Ridance (Time of Your Life)" is kick-ass, and not just because it was on Seinfeld.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted July 26, 2007 Report Share Posted July 26, 2007 I kind of like "Basket Case" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slowhand Posted July 26, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 26, 2007 Brain Stew is their best tune, IMO. Just catchy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farin Posted July 28, 2007 Report Share Posted July 28, 2007 just found a thread from long gone by... here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slowhand Posted July 28, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2007 Green Day did not kill rock Farin! ... they did make it easier for some bands to follow in their footsteps and try, but THEY did not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farin Posted July 28, 2007 Report Share Posted July 28, 2007 I never said that - the thread was around before I even was a member here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayzor Posted July 29, 2007 Report Share Posted July 29, 2007 Green Day blows chunks!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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