Danielj Posted July 6, 2004 Report Share Posted July 6, 2004 Rolling stone is crap. I personnaly am completely disgusted with ANY Rolling Stone Magazine opinion. I was recently reading another post and someone said he picked That's All Right as the first Rock n' Roll album because Rolling Stone said it was. a very wise member named PinkFloyd1973 put it this way: ROLLING STONE is to MUSIC as NATIONAL ENQUIRER is to the SCIENTIFIC WORLD. perfect I just thought the news should get out that it is good for lining the garbage can and not much else. JUST TO PROVE MY POINT, HERE IS THEIR TOP 100 GUITARIST LIST I agree with the first four and that is about it 1 Jimi Hendrix 2 Duane Allman of the Allman Brothers Band 3 B.B. King 4 Eric Clapton 5 Robert Johnson 6 Chuck Berry 7 Stevie Ray Vaughan 8 Ry Cooder 9 Jimmy Page of Led Zeppelin 10 Keith Richards of the Rolling Stones 11Kirk Hammett of Metallica 12 Kurt Cobain of Nirvana 13 Jerry Garcia of the Grateful Dead 14 Jeff Beck 15 Carlos Santana 16 Johnny Ramone of the Ramones 17 Jack White of the White Stripes 18 John Frusciante of the Red Hot Chili Peppers 19 Richard Thompson 20 James Burton 21 George Harrison 22 Mike Bloomfield 23 Warren Haynes 24 The Edge of U2 25 Freddy King 26 Tom Morello of Rage Against the Machine and Audioslave 27 Mark Knopfler of Dire Straits 28 Stephen Stills 29 Ron Asheton of the Stooges 30 Buddy Guy 31 [bleep] Dale 32 John Cipollina of Quicksilver Messenger Service 33 & 34 Lee Ranaldo, Thurston Moore of Sonic Youth 35 John Fahey 36 Steve Cropper of Booker T. and the MG's 37 Bo Diddley 38 Peter Green of Fleetwood Mac 39 Brian May of Qeen 40 John Fogerty of Creedence Clearwater Revival 41 Clarence White of the Byrds 42 Robert Fripp of King Crimson 43 Eddie Hazel of Funkadelic 44 Scotty Moore 45 Frank Zappa 46 Les Paul 47 T-Bone Walker 48 Joe Perry of Aerosmith 49 John McLaughlin 50 Pete Townshend 51 Paul Kossoff of Free 52 Lou Reed 53 Mickey Baker 54 Jorma Kaukonen of Jefferson Airplane 55 Ritchie Blackmore of Deep Purple 56 Tom Verlaine of Television 57 Roy Buchanan 58 Dickey Betts 59 & 60 Jonny Greenwood, Ed O'Brien of Radiohead 61 Ike Turner 62 Zoot Horn Rollo of the Magic Band 63 Danny Gatton 64 Mick Ronson 65 Hubert Sumlin 66 Vernon Reid of Living Colour 67 Link Wray 68 Jerry Miller of Moby Grape 69 Steve Howe of Yes 70 Eddie Van Halen 71 Lightnin' Hopkins 72 Joni Mitchell 73 Trey Anastasio of Phish 74 Johnny Winter 75 Adam Jones of Tool 76 Ali Farka Toure 77 Henry Vestine of Canned Heat 78 Robbie Robertson of the Band 79 Cliff Gallup of the Blue Caps 80 Robert Quine of the Voidoids 81 Derek Trucks 82 David Gilmour of Pink Floyd 83 Neil Young 84 Eddie Cochran 85 Randy Rhoads 86 Tony Iommi of Black Sabbath 87 Joan Jett 88 Dave Davies of the Kinks 89 D. Boon of the Minutemen 90 Glen Buxton of Alice Cooper 91 Robby Krieger of the Doors 92 & 93 Fred "Sonic" Smith, Wayne Kramer of the MC5 94 Bert Jansch 95 Kevin Shields of My Bloody Valentine 96 Angus Young of AC/DC 97 Robert Randolph 98 Leigh Stephens of Blue Cheer 99 Greg Ginn of Black Flag 100 Kim Thayil of Soundgarden Peace~Daniel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
In heaven Posted July 6, 2004 Report Share Posted July 6, 2004 You dont think Robert Johnson should be in there! Do you know who he is? I dont wanna get to preaching but every bluesmamn I bet you has covered one of his songs. I bet you think you dont even know one of his songs but you do maybe 3 or four(he sold his soul at the crossroads come on thats freaking awesome). Who did they leave out? I just dont think you know who these guys are. A great guitarist isn't just someone that can play super fast licks. Robert Johnson influenced alot of people with the way he played now there might be people that copied his style and can maybe play it better but they are just duplicating this man. Seriously though who did they leave out? Who do you think should have been left out? In my opinion Kurt Cobain and the Metallica guy should be dropped down 10 maybe 15 notches. I see some people they left of but hell nobody is going to be happy with a list ogf guitarist because we all have different tastes. BUT ROBERT JOHNSON COME ON DUDE[RESPECT] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danielj Posted July 6, 2004 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2004 As a matter of fact I have a record of Robert Johnson and I am 1 years old so I suppose you could consider me a fan. And I have a few B.B. King's so don't tell me I don't like the blues. I am sorry. To the rest of the list: JACK WHITE 17????I have picked up a guitar seriously about 10 times and I can play two of his songs. at least most of them. SO either I'm the next Hendrix, or they are not tough. Curt Cobain 12? ..... no comment.....maybe he could trade spots with Eddie Van Halen JOHNNY RAMONE 16??? I love the Ramones but come on. George Harrison 21??? Again I love the Beatles but not that much WAKE UP DUDE DO YOU LISTEN TO ANY """GUITAR"""??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denmark Street Posted July 6, 2004 Report Share Posted July 6, 2004 A list of the 100 greatest whatevers is now a standard feature of all music magazines when they find themselves short of features to fill their pages , so Rolling Stone is no more guilty than the rest. At best, they might encourage you to listen to people that you aren't familiar with. At worst, you'll just ignore them. But dont get so worked up over it; these lists aren't SUPPOSED to be a definitive guide, they're just a bunch of opinions and nothing more. Of course, its interesting to read them and disagree with them...why do you think they get published in the first place?... but never take them as gospel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danielj Posted July 6, 2004 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2004 A list of the 100 greatest whatevers is now a standard feature of all music magazines when they find themselves short of features to fill their pages , so Rolling Stone is no more guilty than the rest. At best, they might encourage you to listen to people that you aren't familiar with. At worst, you'll just ignore them. But dont get so worked up over it; these lists aren't SUPPOSED to be a definitive guide, they're just a bunch of opinions and nothing more. Of course, its interesting to read them and disagree with them...why do you think they get published in the first place?... but never take them as gospel. Belive me, I will not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuzikTyme Posted July 6, 2004 Report Share Posted July 6, 2004 Just like any list comprised of favourite picks, there's always gonna be those left out or those which the reader feels shouldn't be there. It's like this, a person could write their favourite 100 guitarists and another person reading it might like every single selection out of the 100. But reality dictates that humans have a relentless preoccupation with thinking that they know what's better than the other guy. So, even if a perfect list was made, no one would agree except the person who made the perfect list for themself. For this I'm thankful. No two people think exactly the same. If it ever were to happen, life as we know it would cease to exist because individuality would be a thing of the past. The individual must believe in what is right as well as believe that others believe they know what is right. When it comes to the sound which we call music, nothing is wrong except to the one thinking it. Relish the fact that we each have our own minds, for one day, our minds will not be our own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denmark Street Posted July 6, 2004 Report Share Posted July 6, 2004 The one thing that really strikes me as weird about this list is that it includes musicians who play VERY different types of music...so how can you possibly try to compare them against each other? For instance, what sort of criteria can be used to argue that folk guitarists like Bert Jansch and John Fahey are 'better' or 'worse' than, say, Steve Howe or Richie Blackmore?? It can't be done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
In heaven Posted July 6, 2004 Report Share Posted July 6, 2004 No I dont listen to guitar I listen to music because guitar players arent bands. I know you said you like the Ramones but maybe you dont understand why they are important if it wasn't for them we would still be playing 20 minute solos. I have playing the guitar for 15 years so I knoow my guitar sorry to have to drop that but I think it was called out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MindCrime Posted July 6, 2004 Report Share Posted July 6, 2004 It's a solid list, they named most of the great guitarists, but in general I never really agree with Rolling Stones list making, their Top albums & top song lists were bad enough, & if you think Rolling Stone is the absolute worst, try Spin's opinions of the greatest. 17 Jack White of the White Stripes Uhm?... how about ... NO 46 Les Paul 70 Eddie Van Halen 82 David Gilmour They have some excellent guitarists underrated Joe Perry is not better than Eddie Van Halen Most of what was listed before Gilmour is false IMO They fail to give any credit to the Eagles I could nit-pick on this list all day long, if I had the time In my opinion ... the Metallica guy should be dropped down 10 maybe 15 notches. Early-day Kirk Hammett is talented enough for his placing, but I guess that's all a reflection of my opinion, not to conflict with yours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dustin20176 Posted July 6, 2004 Report Share Posted July 6, 2004 kirk hammett is talented to be at 11 or higher imo but even though i like cobain should not be 12th and van halen,gilmour, and page and a lot of other people should be higher on the list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cockrocker788 Posted July 6, 2004 Report Share Posted July 6, 2004 where is slash on the list? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cockrocker788 Posted July 6, 2004 Report Share Posted July 6, 2004 Rolling stone is crap. I personnaly am completely disgusted with ANY Rolling Stone Magazine opinion. I was recently reading another post and someone said he picked That's All Right as the first Rock n' Roll album because Rolling Stone said it was. a very wise member named PinkFloyd1973 put it this way: ROLLING STONE is to MUSIC as NATIONAL ENQUIRER is to the SCIENTIFIC WORLD. perfect I just thought the news should get out that it is good for lining the garbage can and not much else. JUST TO PROVE MY POINT, HERE IS THEIR TOP 100 GUITARIST LIST I agree with the first four and that is about it 1 Jimi Hendrix 2 Duane Allman of the Allman Brothers Band 3 B.B. King 4 Eric Clapton 5 Robert Johnson 6 Chuck Berry 7 Stevie Ray Vaughan 8 Ry Cooder 9 Jimmy Page of Led Zeppelin 10 Keith Richards of the Rolling Stones 11Kirk Hammett of Metallica 12 Kurt Cobain of Nirvana 13 Jerry Garcia of the Grateful Dead 14 Jeff Beck 15 Carlos Santana 16 Johnny Ramone of the Ramones 17 Jack White of the White Stripes 18 John Frusciante of the Red Hot Chili Peppers 19 Richard Thompson 20 James Burton 21 George Harrison 22 Mike Bloomfield 23 Warren Haynes 24 The Edge of U2 25 Freddy King 26 Tom Morello of Rage Against the Machine and Audioslave 27 Mark Knopfler of Dire Straits 28 Stephen Stills 29 Ron Asheton of the Stooges 30 Buddy Guy 31 [bleep] Dale 32 John Cipollina of Quicksilver Messenger Service 33 & 34 Lee Ranaldo, Thurston Moore of Sonic Youth 35 John Fahey 36 Steve Cropper of Booker T. and the MG's 37 Bo Diddley 38 Peter Green of Fleetwood Mac 39 Brian May of Qeen 40 John Fogerty of Creedence Clearwater Revival 41 Clarence White of the Byrds 42 Robert Fripp of King Crimson 43 Eddie Hazel of Funkadelic 44 Scotty Moore 45 Frank Zappa 46 Les Paul 47 T-Bone Walker 48 Joe Perry of Aerosmith 49 John McLaughlin 50 Pete Townshend 51 Paul Kossoff of Free 52 Lou Reed 53 Mickey Baker 54 Jorma Kaukonen of Jefferson Airplane 55 Ritchie Blackmore of Deep Purple 56 Tom Verlaine of Television 57 Roy Buchanan 58 Dickey Betts 59 & 60 Jonny Greenwood, Ed O'Brien of Radiohead 61 Ike Turner 62 Zoot Horn Rollo of the Magic Band 63 Danny Gatton 64 Mick Ronson 65 Hubert Sumlin 66 Vernon Reid of Living Colour 67 Link Wray 68 Jerry Miller of Moby Grape 69 Steve Howe of Yes 70 Eddie Van Halen 71 Lightnin' Hopkins 72 Joni Mitchell 73 Trey Anastasio of Phish 74 Johnny Winter 75 Adam Jones of Tool 76 Ali Farka Toure 77 Henry Vestine of Canned Heat 78 Robbie Robertson of the Band 79 Cliff Gallup of the Blue Caps 80 Robert Quine of the Voidoids 81 Derek Trucks 82 David Gilmour of Pink Floyd 83 Neil Young 84 Eddie Cochran 85 Randy Rhoads 86 Tony Iommi of Black Sabbath 87 Joan Jett 88 Dave Davies of the Kinks 89 D. Boon of the Minutemen 90 Glen Buxton of Alice Cooper 91 Robby Krieger of the Doors 92 & 93 Fred "Sonic" Smith, Wayne Kramer of the MC5 94 Bert Jansch 95 Kevin Shields of My Bloody Valentine 96 Angus Young of AC/DC 97 Robert Randolph 98 Leigh Stephens of Blue Cheer 99 Greg Ginn of Black Flag 100 Kim Thayil of Soundgarden Peace~Daniel Only the first four man, Clapton basically copied Chuck Berry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
In heaven Posted July 6, 2004 Report Share Posted July 6, 2004 Exactly!!! The list is f=cked up but if they put the true 100 guitarists normal people would only recognize 20 of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenacious_Peaches Posted July 6, 2004 Report Share Posted July 6, 2004 where is slash on the list? Yeah, where is he? I would think you couldn't have a list like this without him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dustin20176 Posted July 6, 2004 Report Share Posted July 6, 2004 oh [bleep] they dont even have slash on the list. that list is way false Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MindCrime Posted July 6, 2004 Report Share Posted July 6, 2004 They should come up with a longer list, here's a few that they forgot: John Petrucci - Dream Theatre Don Felder/Joe Walsh - Eagles Slash - Guns N' Roses Martin Barre - Jethro Tull Eric Johnson Ace Frehley - Kiss Allen Collins/Gary Rossington - Lynyrd Skynyrd Yngwie Malmsteen Ted Nugent Zakk Wylde - Ozzy, various Dimebag Darrel - Pantera Mike McCready - Pearl Jam Alex Lifeson - Rush Joe Satriani Elliott Randal/Larry Carlton - Steely Dan Steve Vai Billy Gibbons - ZZTop :guitar: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dustin20176 Posted July 6, 2004 Report Share Posted July 6, 2004 yea u hit it jus bout right on the ones they missed mindcrime i mean come on no dimebag they are retarded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted July 6, 2004 Report Share Posted July 6, 2004 I was recently reading another post and someone said he picked That's All Right as the first Rock n' Roll album because Rolling Stone said it was. That was me. It was just a joke! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted July 6, 2004 Report Share Posted July 6, 2004 I'm a sucker for lists. I read all the best guitarists/bands lists, watched the 100 best comedians on comedy central, 51 greatest smartasses, but when I'm done, I realize, wait, why do I care? All lists are trying to appeal to mainstream, because that makes more money. and believe me, they aren't doing it for the love of sharing their opinions, its for the money. They could have just put in a list "100 best selling guitarists" and just left it like that. Its a shame that Rolling Stone runs its magazine the way it does. Millions of people read it, and they should use their power to promote underground or less well known or respected bands, but still stay with the mainstream, so they don't lose readers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MindCrime Posted July 6, 2004 Report Share Posted July 6, 2004 Hey Batman, if you love reading lists (which I do too, if they're official enough) then check out the GuitarWorld's 100 Greatest Solo's list. I posted it at the very bottom of This Thread & can also be found in more detail at This Site Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted July 8, 2004 Report Share Posted July 8, 2004 Cool Thanks! LONG LIVE LISTS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MindCrime Posted July 8, 2004 Report Share Posted July 8, 2004 I'm a sucker for lists. I read all the best guitarists/bands lists, watched the 100 best comedians on comedy central, 51 greatest smartasses, but when I'm done, I realize, wait, why do I care? All lists are trying to appeal to mainstream, because that makes more money. and believe me, they aren't doing it for the love of sharing their opinions, its for the money. They could have just put in a list "100 best selling guitarists" and just left it like that. Usually I watch them on TV, or even in list format on websites, I'm not so interested in what ranking they produce, I just like to see the whole compilation of the greatest. As long as they include all of the good on there, it's usually worthwhile to watch or read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seraphim Posted July 13, 2004 Report Share Posted July 13, 2004 Jack White 17? No Steve Vai? Joe Perry at 48? I've been into rock all of two months and even I know this list is crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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