SoulGirl Posted May 14, 2006 Report Share Posted May 14, 2006 maybe kurt didn't cope with fame but you can't say he wasn't destined for it - look how famous he is?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Levis Posted May 14, 2006 Report Share Posted May 14, 2006 Well, yes, 'destiny' is a poor choice of words... maybe I should have said he wasn't made of the 'material' which famous people are made of and that's probably why he is so adored. I mean, think about it. His songs are so incredibly personal, and it's evident that he didn't like just ANYONE listening to them. He comes across as such a private person that success seems to be a bad thing. And for that reason, if he wants to write about suicide and depression, that's his call, but I don't think he really would like his words to have as much significance as a holy text. Which unfortunately is what they became to a lot of people. I know what I'm trying to say but I'm not sure I'm putting it across too well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blind-fitter Posted May 15, 2006 Report Share Posted May 15, 2006 (edited) just because you don't agree with them, does not mean that they are wrong. music is a very subjective thing, and if i understand correctly, these people were asked who their rock idols were. just because elvis and bob dylan are huge, very influential etc etc does not mean they are everyone's rock idol! i find this attitude very patronising! Ok, maybe I was patronising..."Tant pis" I imagine only the younger cohort of the NME readership voted here. Actually having a "rock idol" is a peculiarly adolescent trait, (isn't it?), let alone voting for one. Most of us grow out of that sort of thing pretty quickly, don't we? I suspect the reason I 'm so tempted to patronise the NME readership at every opportunity, is that the NME has "dumbed down" so much over the last ten years or so, to pick up the audiences of rival publications which fell by the wayside: Record Mirror, Sounds, and finally but crucially, teeny-boppers lyic & poster mag "Smash Hits". Prior to all that the NME was the music-paper of the intelligentsia (left-wing and left-field) and prone to patronising the likes of me... it's descent into the mire of teen-populism has been by turns amusing and deeply irritating. Invis, when you say this... just because you don't agree with them, does not mean that they are wrong I know in my heart of hearts that you are right, even though I still believe that the people who voted Ian Brown as the world's greatest rock-star are just plain wrong. Give them a different set of crayons tomorrow and they'll draw you a different picture... There, I'm at it again. Edited May 15, 2006 by Guest correct typo error Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blind-fitter Posted May 17, 2006 Report Share Posted May 17, 2006 I suspect the reason I 'm so tempted to patronise the NME readership at every opportunity, is that the NME has "dumbed down" so much over the last ten years or so, to pick up the audiences of rival publications which fell by the wayside: Record Mirror, Sounds, and finally but crucially, teeny-boppers lyic & poster mag "Smash Hits". Tch...I forgot to include "Melody Maker", which until its demise, was the NMEs "rival publication" throughout the 1990s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invisible_r Posted May 17, 2006 Report Share Posted May 17, 2006 i agree with you, and i especially agree about ian brown, who won rock life time acheivement award at the nme awards! i've seen him live when he was touring one of his solo albums, and it was the worst gig i'v ever been to! i just hate it when people think that everyone should idolise classic rock starts like dylan and elvis. it's purely subjective and that's why i said that you are being patronising. i wasn't suggesting that i agree with what they voted for (apart ffrom the examples i already mentioned) . and yes, we are too old for idols! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Levis Posted May 17, 2006 Report Share Posted May 17, 2006 In any case, Elvis Presley or Kurt Cobain or Bob Dylan or Thom Yorke, I don't think its the wisest thing to have a rock star as an idol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earth-Angel Posted May 17, 2006 Report Share Posted May 17, 2006 Also bear in mind, this is the NME list. There will no doubt be a Rolling Stone list, a Spin list, and every other music mag under the sun list... and the nice thing is - they will all be different! No 2 will have the same top 10, yes, maybe the same names in some cases, but not in the same placing and in comparison to the same collective lists. No one will ever agree on the same people to fill the spots, and rightly so - as seen here, everyone has a different idea and that's what makes this place so great! Respecting others opinions and makng informed decisions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonJonSurfer Posted May 17, 2006 Report Share Posted May 17, 2006 I'm Going To Be A Teenage Idol Music by Elton John Lyrics by Bernie Taupin Available on the album Don't Shoot Me I'm Only The Piano Player Well there's slim times when my words won't rhyme And the hills I face are a long hard climb I just sit cross legged with my old guitar It kind of makes me feel like a rock and roll star Well it makes me laugh Lord it makes me cry And I think for once let me just get high Let me get electric put a silk suit on Turn my old guitar into a tommy gun And root-toot-shoot myself to fame Every kid alive gonna know my name An overnight phenomenon like there's never been A motivated supersonic king of the scene I'll be a teenage idol, just give me a break I'm gonna be a teenage idol no matter how long it takes You can't imagine what it means to me I'm gonna grab myself a place in history A teenage idol that's what I'm gonna be Well life is short and the world is rough And if you're gonna boogie boy you got to be tough Nobody knows if I'm dead or alive I just drink myself to sleep each night And so I pray to the teenage god of rock If I make it big let me stay on top You got to cut me loose from this one room dive Put me on the ladder keep this boy alive Repeat chorus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulGirl Posted May 17, 2006 Report Share Posted May 17, 2006 i want to be an idol, i wanna i wanna i wanna be adored.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steel2Velvet Posted May 18, 2006 Report Share Posted May 18, 2006 I believe you are, Soulgirl. I believe you are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulGirl Posted May 18, 2006 Report Share Posted May 18, 2006 oh reeeally?! i like that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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