Batman Posted May 23, 2005 Report Posted May 23, 2005 What's your opinion on prog rock? Some people think it's too grandiose, and some use the word "masturbatory" to describe it. I personally like it. Well, I like the good ones anyway. Such as Yes. Some bands make long songs just for the purpose of being long songs. But Yes doesn't seem like they force the longness into their songs, they just have a lot to say, musically. I usually prefer their long songs, though, because by the end it feels as if you've gone on some sort of magical journey.
Aunt_Acid Posted May 24, 2005 Report Posted May 24, 2005 I don't really know what the definition of progressive rock is. Would ELP be considered progressive rock? If so, then I vote for ELP.
bazooka Posted May 24, 2005 Report Posted May 24, 2005 I don't really know what the definition of progressive rock is. Would ELP be considered progressive rock? Here's some criteria. Emerson, Lake & Palmer are definitely included.
edna Posted May 24, 2005 Report Posted May 24, 2005 Bands as Yes, King Crimson, ELP, Focus and even Pink Floyd, as the best knowns (half of the bands were into that music by the mid 70´s or were influenced by it) were a result of simplicity in pop and rock music. Some musicians wanted to go further on and some of them did great things. But I believe the use of drugs was also important, just as well for musicans as for those who listened to it... like, "take an acid and listen to the last ELP album". It soon became tedious for some people, others (jazzy or fusion lovers) still love it... and the result this time was punk explosion by the late 70´s. Well, that´s to make a long story short...
Aunt_Acid Posted May 24, 2005 Report Posted May 24, 2005 There's an Al Dimeola song that he plays with Steve Vai, but I don't know what it's called, and in the beginning there's a radio switching around and it lands on some action sequence with an orchestra, and I just heard that part of the song in a commercial.
edna Posted May 24, 2005 Report Posted May 24, 2005 Actually, progressive rock was called so to make a difference with "commercial rock"... at least in the late 60s. Bubblegum, standard pop, even Beatles or Rolling Stones were considered "non prog rock". Honestly, it could be quite boring too... I´ve had my share of Mahavishnu...
The_Coz Posted May 31, 2005 Report Posted May 31, 2005 Alot of Prog rock is egotistical, self serving bullshit. Dragging the same idea out over 12 minutes with minor changes. Though there is some truly inspired stuff out there. Stuff like Steve Vai, Satriani and Liquid Tension Experiment serve to showcase the technical prowess of the players. Not much more then 74 minutes of personal advertising space. But bands like King Crimson, Spock's Beard, Dream Theater, The Mars Volta and Yes have sprawling epics with complete feels and concepts. Sometimes an epic is just what you need.
Aunt_Acid Posted May 31, 2005 Report Posted May 31, 2005 An epic is just what I always need. Also, what is your signature from?
Malakin Posted May 31, 2005 Report Posted May 31, 2005 That sig is from a steely dan song.. And honestly, isn't all music self-serving egotistical bullshit, when you boil it down? Besides, who are -you- to say someone else's music is self-serving or bullshit? I mean, you might think it's a bit much or something, but that's someone's work and art, and you're just dismissing it like it's not worth the tape it was recorded on.. That's pretty self-serving and egotistical, don't you think?
Batman Posted May 31, 2005 Author Report Posted May 31, 2005 I agree, Malakin. I would say that an egotist is someone who cares more about themselves than about... ... ... ...(wait for it)... ... ... ME
The_Coz Posted June 1, 2005 Report Posted June 1, 2005 Hahaha, I suppose in a way music is pretty self serving. But I just think certain albums are the artists just saying "Look how f'ing good I am at this!" Could just be me. I meant no offense by it. I still love Steve Vai and Joe Satriani. But not Buckethead. haha
jman14141414 Posted June 1, 2005 Report Posted June 1, 2005 Hahaha, I suppose in a way music is pretty self serving. But I just think certain albums are the artists just saying "Look how f'ing good I am at this!" In other words Yngwie Malmsteen.
The_Coz Posted June 2, 2005 Report Posted June 2, 2005 OMG!!! Jman, I was totally gonna say Yngwie, but I thought I'd get some flak for sayiing it! Thank you! You have validated me!
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