edna Posted September 21, 2009 Report Share Posted September 21, 2009 There I go again. I posted this some time ago but still didn't get a good answer... now someone tells me she says "love was too forbiding" What does she sing? In the net the lyrics say "plebeian"... I'm still wondering. Maybe there' s some Cry Me A River expert among us? Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farin Posted September 21, 2009 Report Share Posted September 21, 2009 maybe they changed the lyrics in the different cover versions? in Julie London's version at least it's pretty clear what she sings: Remember, I remember, All that you said; Told me love was too plebian, Told me you were through with me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edna Posted September 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2009 I know... it still doesn't make sense... (thank you, Martin, mein freund... ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farin Posted September 21, 2009 Report Share Posted September 21, 2009 it doesn't? he's a total snob from a very 'upper class' background, who thinks he's too sophisticated to do such a working-class thing like a relationship built on only feelings like 'love' ... or he just uses that as an excuse to get rid of her Jarvis Cocker (Pulp) made some songs about this theme as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edna Posted September 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2009 That' s a new info, Martin... and very helpfull... maybe it's got something to do with the movie "The Girl Can't Help It"? I can' t google for it now as i'm leaving to work but will do it later on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farin Posted September 21, 2009 Report Share Posted September 21, 2009 I have no idea... that was just my personal interpretation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazooka Posted September 22, 2009 Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 It couldn't be more crystal clear than in Joe Cocker's interpretation. [smaller] Amazingly, it actually does sound like he's singing " .. Told me I was too plebian " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edna Posted September 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 Thank you my friends... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lea Posted September 22, 2009 Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 (edited) I wondered what they were singing as well. I don't remember now where I got the information(years ago) but I was told the lyrics are actually: You told me love was truth within Told me you were through with me and..." But that isn't what it sounds like to me. I have always loved that song especially when sang by Crystal Gale. Link Edited September 22, 2009 by Guest added link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Joe Posted September 22, 2009 Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 Plebian-Roman commonner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLD 55 Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 Happy Birthday Joe. Yes - common or vulgar. I was going to say "in everyday usage", but I haven't heard anyone use it since I left School. Edit: Young55 tells me that its shortened form, pleb, is fairly common. But his older brother (by 10 years) hasn't heard of it. (Written by Arthur Hamilton, who also wrote 'I Can Sing A Rainbow') Now you say you're lonely, You cry the whole night through. Well you can cry me a river, Cry me a river, I cried a river over you. Now you say you're sorry, For being so untrue. Well you can cry me a river, Cry me a river, I cried a river over you. You drove me, nearly drove me, Out of my head; While you never shed a tear. Remember, I remember, All that you said; Told me love was too plebian, Told me you were through with me, And, now you say you love me, Well, just to prove you do, Come on and cry me a river, Cry me a river, I cried a river over you I cried a river over you (x 3) - fade. I just checked it to the clip that Martin posted ! Spot on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edna Posted September 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 Looks like I brought the same topic for the second time... I'll call a friend of mine who's a journalist and an expert in this sort of mysteries and post what I get... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLD 55 Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 Watcha wanna find out Sweetie ? Those lyrics are correct, and plebeian, or pleb, means in everyday terms someone who's 'common, coarse, vulgar, uncultured'. I think the writer of the song has used 'plebeian' in the wrong context. The word should refer to a person, not an emotion, such as love. If it is about their love, it could be related to the patrician/plebian class distinctions in Roman times. Maybe the guy thought he was he was too good for her ? And now he's changed his mind ? Also, It's nothing to do with the Movie, The Girl Can't Help It. The song was published 3 years before it. (Sorry, I missed that before). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLD 55 Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 Amazingly, it actually does sound like he's (Joe Cocker) singing " .. Told me I was too plebian " THAT would make sense ! But it's not according to the original lyric. I couldn't make out what he was singing. Joe should come with sub-titles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawna Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 (edited) It couldn't be more crystal clear than in Joe Cocker's interpretation. I didn't get that until I actually heard him singing it. Nice one, Mr. Bazooka. In the Crystal Gayle version, she is saying "plebian," she pronounces it "pla-bee-yan" whereas I'd always heard it pronounced as "plee-beyan." Weird. Edit: Regarding the use of it... I can see how love could be described as too plebeian, even with a commoner in mind... perhaps the songwriter was thinking love is what common people feel, and I'm not common. Or maybe he felt HER love was too common - maybe she spreads it around too much. Edited September 23, 2009 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lea Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 I always took plebeian to mean he thought love was to common and the emotion to be to far below him to even consider participating in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farin Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 ^ that's how I saw it too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edna Posted September 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 I'll face the facts and accept that he told her love was too plebeian... What a bleep... Yes, go, cry her a river... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky Posted September 24, 2009 Report Share Posted September 24, 2009 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLD 55 Posted September 24, 2009 Report Share Posted September 24, 2009 I'll go along with the consensus too. I only know the choruses of most songs. They're usually fun and not too thought provoking. Like Um, Um, Um, Um, Um,Um - Major Lance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazooka Posted September 25, 2009 Report Share Posted September 25, 2009 I couldn't make out what he was singing. Joe should come with sub-titles. So true. Something like this annotated version, posted in another thread a while back, would be helpful. I really love Joe Cocker, even though I have no idea what he's singing half the time. The fact that he does mostly covers makes it a little easier to guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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