Batman

Haha yeah I love the logic there. The economy's going down, better buy a gun! Maybe I should even buy it with credit I don't have!

Portland Oregon! Elliott Smith The Thermals The Decemberists The Kingsmen The Exploding Hearts The Helio Sequence Quasi The Shins The Wipers Viva Voce Lifesasvas Sleater-Kinney M. Ward The Dandy Warhols Copy Menomena Agalloch Jackie-O Motherf*cker

Well in that case...rad! I still wouldn't buy it though.

Marvin Gaye

I have actually never participated in the songfacts top ten and would like to. Is the idea to listen to these songs which I assume are some of BF's favorites, and then rank them in a top ten? 1 Freak Scene - Dinosaur Jr. 2 Teenage Riot - Sonic Youth 3 Reel Around the Fountain - The Smiths 4 The Passion of Lovers - Bauhaus 5 Board Teenagers - The Adverts 6 Making Plans for Nigel - XTC 7 The Back of Love - Echo and the Bunnymen 8 I Found That Essence Rare - Gang of Four 9 Ha Ha Ha - Flipper 10 Going Underground - The Jam

Yeah true, the other guys write all the music, but the band wouldn't be the same without Richey's lyrics. They were all important!

how about the Beatles - All You Need Is Love

Yeah I think they're easy to get obsessed with because Richey was such a fascinating character. The whole mythology behind him really makes them an obsessable (is that even a word?) band.

SF, my 2nd favorite city in the world. My favorite city is Portland, because it's just like if SF grew legs and hiked up north to a less crowded place.

Yeah I agree with Bitter Almonds. I mean, if you were to own copy 3,276 of the white album, it would be just as rare since it's the only 3,276th white album that exists. On an unrelated note, great album. I'd say probably my 4th favorite from the Beatles, which is pretty good.

I used to be obsessed with the Manics, particularly with The Holy Bible. I never listen to it anymore but still appreciate that it is a great album.

Haha, yeah that's what's going to save pop next year, another awful U2 album.

yeah that's exactly what I meant

That's the right thing to do. Kudos to not-Zep!

Yeah true. I guess mostly I just didn't want this thread to be a discussion of great musicians who died young, because that conversation's been had too many times.

That's really lame! He does the vocoder thing on every track? There's no way I'm going to listen to that. Maybe if I'm craving a new Kanye album anytime soon I'll just get another copy of Graduation, haha. I heard that Lil Wayne is doing something like that too, he says he wants to do an album with T-Pain that's all vocoder r&b singing, but Lil Wayne comes out with like 3 or 4 albums a year anyways so it's not that big a deal.

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Oh man, I really dig his music, and I would actually definitely include him in a conversation about who is the voice of this generation, but when he says such cocky stuff as this it makes me kind of embarassed that I like him so much. Plus, based off the singles I've heard I have a feeling his new album is going to suck. "Love Lockdown" is the worst song I've heard from him. And I was really looking forward to his new album until I heard it too!

I guess the "long careers" title is just meant to discount bands who ended on a positive note because their careers were so short. Like Jimi, who's last album (Band of Gypsys) was amazing, but he was only alive to make four albums anyways.

I used to until I listened to his mixtapes. He is actually a really good rapper, but the stuff I had heard on the radio led me to believe otherwise.

Well if you are 45 now, you would have been in your 30's when that album came out, and it's definitely directed more at teenagers. I'm pretty sure I was 15 when I first heard it and I thought it was so awesome. I suppose The Sweater Song was written for teen boys and Island in the Sun was written for adults.

nice, my 2nd favorite mc of the wu tang clan! "I bomb atomically, Socrate's philosophies and hypothesies can't define how I be droppin these mockeries"

Honestly I don't care if a band wants to make money or not. I'm not questioning the bands, I'm only pointing out the hypocrisy of the fans. If a baby boomer is complaining about Lil Wayne doing anything for money, they better be complaining about Zep and the Stones as well. But of course they aren't, because everyone knows the manufactured products of their childhood were way more artistically legitimate than the manufactured products of today.

Sounds to me like you're describing the Blue Album!

I love MGMT's song "Time to Pretend," so I was really excited when I saw that they were going to perform it on David Letterman. Their performace was really lackluster though. The studio version is way better.