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Franco De Vita... that brings a lot of memories. A lot of South American singers got famous from having their songs played as the theme of a telenovela. Franco De Vita, Guillermo Davila, Carlos Mata, and Rudy LaScala got their songs heard when the Venezuelan telenovelas made it to the rest of the Americas (including the United States). "Solo Importas Tu" ("You're The Only One That Matters") by Franco De Vita: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5eEO5s_qQM "Un Buen Perdedor" ("A Good/Graceful Loser") http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCSvEBdOgA4 He was a bit of a "piano man" himself. I bet you cien pesos he was heavily influenced by Billy Joel Here's one which should sound familiar to millions... but this time it's in Spanish... and it should still sound familiar to another set of millions! "Chiquitita" (in Spanish) by one of my favourite Pop bands, ABBA:

Erin Esurance. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erin_Esurance

Two bands I listened to often in the late 90s were Rialto and Kent. Before Y-107 went off the air, they began airing all kinds of obscure muzak nobody else in radio would dare play (except for college radio, which nobody listens to). Rialto's self-titled album is one of the quintessential 90s albums.

Does the name "Richard Cheese" ring any bells? Add some "Weird" Al Yankovic and the Dr. Demento line-up.

Ooh, Bolero music is gooooood. THAT is genuinely ours! Sure, there is Merengue, Salsa, Cumbia, Vallenato, Zamba, and Bachata - tropical music for which we're very famous for, but Bolero music is our "uber." Speaking of Bachata, you should check out music by Juan Luis Guerra Y El Grupo 440. It's fun and upbeat tropical music. You usually hear them played every Saturday night at Salsa clubs in SoCal.

John Stewart is "odd"?! Since when?! An odd crush has got to be and LOOK odd! Peter Lorre kind of odd! Jack Black would be a good candidate for an odd male crush. Guys like Jason Schwartzman don't count either since all they do is give them a cow-lick hairdo and some horn-rimmed glasses and that's supposed to make them "odd" and "eccentric." No, no, no. If you're gonna choose an eccentric and odd, go for Bill Murray, or Dennis Hopper, or that mellon head George Lopez. THOSE are odd, but they got personality and wit to last a life time. Although if you were to say Toulouse-Lautrec, then I'd know you're either pulling our chain or you're Hellen Keller. Odd crush? Ellen Degeneres. I know she bats for the other team, but she's genuinely funny... and that's sexy.

I wish I had access to me old computer, but right now I'm stuck trying to hack into my own computer's WINXP password. Anyway, I can tell you that Rock and Pop do not translate too well into Spanish and vice-versa. You'll find very few English-speaking artists who sing like Leonardo Favio, Sabu, Emmanuel, Jose Jose, Rudy LaScala, and Camilo Sesto. In Spanish, singing in an intense and passionate voice is not out of the ordinary, while in English I'd imagine it'd draw a lot of bad attention and would be the butt of jokes (much like J-Pop is rife with high-pitched female vocalists). Here are some songs which, to me, have a Romantic Ballad sound: - "Nena" ("Nena") by Miguel Bose - "Insoportablemente Bella" ("Unbearably Beautiful") by Emmanuel - "La Nave Del Olvido" ("The Ship Of Oblivion") by Jose Jose - "El Cariño Es Como Una Flor" ("Love Is Like A FLower") by Rudy LaScala - "Que Porque Te Quiero" ("Why It Is That I Love You") by Carlos Mata - "Lo Que Fue No Sera" ("What Once Was Will Not Be") by Jose Maria Napoleon - "Y Te Vas" ("And You Left") by Jose Luis Perales - "Amor De Mujer" ("A Woman's Love") by Camilo Sesto I think the one that translates the best in terms of sound is Camilo Sesto's song. It has a familiar English vocalist air to it and the instrumentation is pretty cool - sounds like the theme of some old foreign movie. Granted, these are ALL old songs with an average of 20-25 years give or take. I'm not too keen on what's current nowadays in Latin American and Spanish music (since they're trying to copy their English counterparts too much).

Jimi Hendrix's "Star-Spangled Banner."

Your list is missing Rockabilly, Garage, Glam, New Wave, Goth, Power Pop, and even the variations of Metal.

Hahaha. Looks like someone is trying to coin new words into the English language without permission. Elitism + Rock = Rockism If "rockist" is analogous to a wine connoisseur, then I'm all for beer tasting. PABST BLUE RIBBON!

Hey, I found something! http://forum.songfacts.com/showtopic.php?tid/140040/ In that case, lemme roll my sleeves (actually, I don't have sleeves at the moment) and get ta work on this crucial rockist list (ha! It rhymed...): - Arena Rock: Permanent Waves by Rush - Art Rock: For Your Pleasure by Roxy Music - BritPop: Rialto by Rialto - Indie Rock: Mellow Gold by Beck - Indie Rock/Alterno Pop: So Tonight That I Might See by Mazzy Star - Jazz Rock: Aja by Steely Dan - Kraut Rock: The Man Machine by Krafwerk - Neo Folk: The World That Summer by Death In June - Post Punk: The Return Of The Durutti Column by The Durutti Column - Power Pop: Free All Angels by Ash (this is what I would term as a "wild card") - Swedish Rock: Isola (in SWEDISH!) by Kent

i.e. "Rockism" would be like you listing 13 albums by a bunch of famous and influential Rock bands and excluding The Beatles for some odd reason or other.

Maybe you did misunderstand because I did not write any band was less obvious than The Stones

Maybe the definition of "rockism" is that blaring Rock 'N Roll examples would be excluded from such a list. Say, par example, you exclude Roxy Music, then I can call you a "rockist" for discriminating against bands that make great music.

I've never seen a "rockism" list. Where could one find more of those?

The Stones might squeak in as "Soul" "Blues". http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=77:2753

Um, not entirely...? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Doobie_Brothers http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&searchlink=DOOBIE|BROTHERS&sql=11:os820r6ac489~T0 Their sound is a mish-mash of various styles, but all merged into Rock. Okay, so they're not.

Oh, and if Chicago were to ever attempt making any form of Ska music, they'd be sure to topple over the yachts their music is often heard from.

Who hasn't heard The Mighty Mighty Bosstones? "The Impression That I Get" was on heavy rotation on the radio and on eMpTyV during a Ska revival along crap such as No Doubt and Save Ferris. This might also have been a time when retro-Swing was attempting to make a weird comeback after about...hmmm... 60 years. Ricky Martin's "Livin' La Vida Loca" sort of reminded me of the music from "The Impression That I Get" and both make me shudder in revulsion, but not more than music by No Doubt and Sublime.

There are a couple of bands I can honestly say have been making some great music this decade: Air, Daft Punk, The Faint, Chris Isaak, and Kent. Anything else I listen to that comes from this decade falls into the "guilty pleasures" file. As in, it is crap, but I will listen to it anyway.

Hmmm. But Chicago did not use their brass to make Ska-influenced music. I think a member here tried to say the same thing before (that Chicago was Ska music) years ago and that got ugly too. I don't see and hear any new, modern groups out there being formed that make "Soft" Rock a la Chicago.

Soul and R&B: Hall And Oates The Doobie Brothers Alison Moyet (maybe) Taylor Dayne (maybe) Lisa Stanfield (maybe) Anastacia (maybe) Problem is is that they're not filed under "Soul," but "Adult Contemporary." http://forum.songfacts.com/showtopic.php?tid/141067/post/new/#NEW Rap and Hip Hop: Eminem Beastie Boys The Stereo MCs Jamiroquai

I like some of the bands typified by the sub-categories of "Thrash" Metal and "Speed" Metal - the kind of stuff you don't even need to headbang to in order to get whiplash. The early 80s still ruled the world musicwise. It all went downhill when Hair Bands took over, except for Guns 'N Roses (who were a Hard Rock band).

I have lived a very sheltered life, so you must all excuse me for what may be obvious, but what is this thing called rockism? Rockist...? http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=rockism

Just the beginning part about a chance meeting with a person from the past. Definitely the line "although I wasn't there, he said I was his 'friend' " makes me think of a couple of situations I've encountered.