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  • Birthday 12/25/1963

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  1. I know you ask about DVDs but have you tried the book Revolution In The Head by Ian MacDonald? In case you don't know it it's a really detailed trawl through the genesis, writing and recording of every single track they recorded. It might give you the sort of detail you're looking for.
  2. political but non-partisan and therefore probably not likley to offend any paricular attendees - how about Nick Lowe's 'What's So Funny Bout Peace Love And Understanding?'. It's also a fairly simple song to play and sing with a very catchy tune. But the doyen of political songwriting has got to be Billy Bragg - stuff like There Is A Power In A Union, Between The Wars etc. are all tremendous.
  3. I may be wrong but to me it doesn't sound like a classical piece. Yes it is played on a harpsichord but if you listen to the rhythm/dynamic in just those two short sections they are more like jazz than classical in their patterns. I doubt very much that it hails from the Bach (or any pre-20th century) period. I have also had a look at the album and the writing credits are to 4 writers - all of whom are band members.
  4. If I was being generous I'd say it's one of those 'address the state of the absurd world around us' songs, filled with surreal/nonsensical images to try and show the madness of late 60s western civilisation. Not meant to make sense, just to point out the craziness around us all. If I was being less generous I'd say it was a second rate attempt to jump on the Beatles bandwagon using the I Am The Walrus template.
  5. I was thinking of two absolue gems by the Byrds, one of which is My Back Pages and the other Goin' Back (a Carole King song). Two of the greatest renditions of two of the greatest songs.
  6. I know where you're coming from but, as I said ealier, I think it's so tenuous that you couldn't really say it was a self-referential song in the way that I think the original question was defining it.
  7. I still don't think it (Singin' In The Rain) is self-referential - the knowledge that the song is being sung is that one only comes from seeing it sung in the film. It's very tenuous to suggest otherwise. Bt the way, Hallelujah, the lyrics are 'the minor fall and the major lift', not sacred lift. Or does that change occur in a version that isn't one of the better kown ones? It's certainly not in Laughin' Len's original or in the Jeff Buckley version.
  8. Some very weird responses in this thread. Do people have any idea what self-referential actually means? Singin' In The Rain is clearly not self-referential in any way, neither is Rock Me Amadeus, neither is Like A Rolling Stone.... And the comment about Prince on pg.2 or 3... what is that supposed to mean? A couple that are that (I think) haven't been mentioned so far: Van Morrison - I'd Love To Write Another Song Creedence Clearwater Revival - Wrote A Song For Everyone
  9. Ayethangyoo. It's one of my favourite subjects to rant about this thing that Lennon was in some way superior to McCartney because he was like, y'kmnow, more serious maaaan. Utter rubbish. I'm not saying that that was what the original post was saying but it strays into that area.
  10. Set The House Ablaze by The Jam is a ferocious song that has a lot of whislting in it. Back to Hocus Pocus (I'm assuming it was the Focus song that was under discussion) - are you sure? It's a while since I last heard it but I can't remember any whistling in it at all - lots of yodelling but no whistling.
  11. Well, they're both fictional lyricists in that neither of them is setting documentary texts to music, they are both making up their lyrics. So the simple answr is no, you can't say that about them. If you mean are Lennon's more grounded in reality - no - when Lennon gets political he tends to operate in some fanciful utopia rather than any real politics (cf the pie in the sky nonsense that is Imagine and Revolution or the soppy romanticism of Woman). McCartney often does frivolous lyrics as well (Frog Chorus, Pipes Of Peace, O-Bla-Di-O-Bla-Da) but his tend to be deliberately chidlish or childlike, whereas Lennon's seem to be intended seriously even though they are just as daft.
  12. Pink is just ugly - looks like she smells of, er, incontinence. Beyonce though is veeery foxy. And good call on En Vogue - two of them were stunning. One not mentioned so far - Michelle Phillips from the Mamas & Papas - really beautiful.
  13. The glorious and life affirming Alison's Starting To Happen by The Lemonheads.
  14. What about those classic Eric B & Rakim tracks - I Know You Got Soul and Paid In Full. They made some awesome records. Boogie sDown Productions had a whoel raft of great stuff - My Uzi Weighs A Ton for example. And though he's just a pop muppet these days LL Cool J made some great records in his early days - I Need A Beat and RADIO are both great records.
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