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    Song writing

    i DON T buy that a song, at least the melody part, can be written by two people. Like Lennon and McCartney, I think they basically wrote songs alone and just got together to listen to each others stuff and perhaps suggest a few improvements etc. I think most of the early Beatles songs, like she loves you I wannna hold your hand etc, were written by John, He was the dynamo of the group. It was nt until Sgt Pepper that power began to shift and Paul became the driving force. The song river deep mountain high is a classic from 1965 and credited to Phil Spector Jeff Barry Ellie Greenwich I wonder who wrote that amazing melody Certainly the lyrics are written from a female point of view. Maybe the melody was written by Ellie, Her biog says Joining forces with legendary producer Phil Spector, a string of legendary hits were created, including: "Be My Baby," "Da Doo Ron Ron," "And Then He Kissed Me," "Chapel Of Love" and "River Deep, Mountain High." With Barry, this trend continued with number one smashes, such as "Hanky Panky," "Do Wah Diddy" and the epic "Leader Of The Pack," a lot of those songs are from the female point of view, I wonder if Ellie wrote the melodies, wot atomic songs they are, wot a talent
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    Song writing

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    Blondie

    Blondie had a hot run of songs in the 80s I wonder if Debbie wrote them, was she the main powerhouse behind those incredible songs, similarly in T Pau I wonder if it was Carol Dekker the feisty red head who wrote their amazing stuff was she the power behind it all. The Bee Gees have a great portfolio of songs over what ? 4 or 5 decades now. They are all credited as songwriters but I ve a suspicion that Barry Gibb is the real power and massive talent behind the Bee Gees I don t think melodies can be written by two people, melody is a magic that can only be conceived in one mind. Barry is the oldest, the best looking, the most articulate. he is the one wot wrote their brilliant stuff like Where the Spirits Fly, How Deep is your Love, You win again, Morning of My Life. Robin probably wrote the odd song like saved by the bell etc. Barry is a genius, probably now getting on a level with Paul MacCartney. Hes probably gone on a lot longer than Paul too Paul lost it about the time of Band on the run his mind fogged by de weed.
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    Who wrote what?

    Somehow you can tell which is a mcartney song and which is a lennon song though lennon's song " goodnight sleep tight " had me beat, I thought that was Paul. I even thought " I wanna hold your hand " was Paul but now I think its one of Lennon's songs, the very song that broke America ! In those early days of Beatlemania Lennon was the driving force, Beatlemania is all down to his songwriting genius. Later , by the time of the sgt pepper album Paul was the driving force. I think Paul is the main man behind the best of sgt pepper...... he was the guvnor at that time. So often also they did the main vocals on their own composition. A song melody is so unique and magical it is absurd to think it can be created by two individual people. I think what they did was to get together every now and then and play their new songs to each other and maybe Paul would suggest some improvement or other. Paul and John were both gifted lyricists as well as tunesmiths. A more normal collaberation is Elton John with Bernie taupin. Elton admits he is hopeless at lyrics Bernie did that job and Elton received the lyrics and began putting tunes to them. That seems the logical way. I was surprised to read that Abba 's Waterloo started life as just a melody. Benny gave the melody to Stig and he put the unusual lyrics to the catchy tune. Stig was an old hand in the music biz, he was like a father figure to Bjorn and Benny. It seems that Benny, ( the one with the beard, ) was the main tunesmith and Bjorn and Stig were writing lyrics for his amazing talent. though I suspect that some of the Abba tunes were written by Bjorn like say 'another town another train'........... perhaps that was Bjorns own work ? I may be wrong. The song " River deep mountain high " is one of the all time classic songs. the song is credited to 3 writers.........phil spector, jeff barry and ellie greenwich but I suspect its really Ellie's song. The lyrics are in first person too written from a female angle. wow, wot a magic song, well done Ellie !
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    Hot Gossip - Break me into little pieces

    Debbi Ash was a babe, like her older sis Lesley. I think Debbie, like Lesley, was in one or two movies. I can remember one where Debbie was a nurse I never realized she was in hot gossip too !
  7. a song that was popular on TV , prob in the 90s on variety shows etc Break me into little pieces Screw me up and throw me away Break me into little pieces Tell me that you re gonna stay well something like that A lovely song anyone got any info, writer, ? etc thanks for any comment Tim
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    up up and away

    yeah , youre right wot a great songwriter I think he wrote witchitau line man too another classic. wonder what he s up to now, maybe he s retired ?
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    up up and away

    up up and away in my beautiful balloon wot a brill song by ....... who was it now .... cant think but I think it was writ in the 60s it was the perfect song to slot into a tv variety show back then there was much more variety type shows on tv , lots of groups of dancers like The Young Generation who were a vital ingredient of such shows. and the 60s and 70s had such great music maybe Hot Gossip another dance group were a kind of continuation of that dance group trend where are all these sexy dance groups today ? where are the variety shows ? it looks as though Davina Mcall and her talentless sidekick have taken over the airwaves with endless hours of sleaze and dross for the TV execs its a lot less effort But we are all the loosers in this sleazey game Bring back old Brucie and the London Palladium !
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    Hot Gossip - Break me into little pieces

    I think I answered my own question, I just did a google Hot Gossip were a British dance troupe most notable for their appearance on the TV series The Kenny Everett Video Show, which aired on ITV in the late 1970s. It was created and choreographed by Arlene Phillips. The sexually suggestive dance routines, moves, gestures and costumes used by the troupe were considered very risqué, especially considering the early evening timeslot that the Video Show was broadcast in. Hot Gossip are often keen to claim that these risqué dance routines were not simply a result of the television programme and that they performed such dances since they were formed, 4 years before The Kenny Everett Video Show first aired. Hot Gossip also made a couple of pop records, featuring Sarah Brightman on lead vocal. They scored a hit with I Lost My Heart To a Starship Trooper, a lightweight disco track that cashed in on the media hype surrounding the original Star Wars film. They went on to record an album in the early 1980s, Geisha Boys and Temple Girls, produced by the former Human League member Martyn Ware. The album was a commercial failure. Dancers who performed with Hot Gossip at one time or another before they disbanded in 1986 included: Donna Fielding, Lorraine Whitmarsh, Peri Lister, Chrissy Wickham, Heather Alexander, Lyndsey Ward, Carol Fletcher, Jane Newman, Virginia Hartley, Wanda Rokikki, Kathy Burke, Sinitta Renet, Laura James, Alison Herlihy, Debbie Ash, Kim Leeson, Erin Lordan, Trudy Pack, Donette Goddard, Bonnie Bryg, the song Break me into little pieces was prob a follow up to starship trouper made well after Sarah Brightman had left. I wish I had the album Geisha Boys and Temple Girls it must be a collectors piece by now !
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    Hot Gossip - Break me into little pieces

    i THInk I first heard the song, prob in the late 70 s there was a hot dance group Hot Gossip here in UK and maybe them or a later version of those dancers did the song on TV miming and dancing to it Sarah Brightman used to be a member of the dance group and they had a big hit I gave my heart to a starship trouper maybe this was another release by that group, I don t know, come to think of it it does have a feel of that song, maybe the same writer !
  12. Its such a brill song someone must know it I know a couple of lines of lyrics I ll wait till your love comes down Its comin straight from your heart Its a very powerful , driving rock song The video for it had a sexy model walking about some city or other. can anyone give me the title of the song and the name of the group ?
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