Steel2Velvet
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What, you ask, constitutes classic rock?
Thrown like a star in my vast sleep
I open my eyes to take a peep
To find that I was by the sea
Gazing with tranquility
Was then when the Hurdy Gurdy Man
Came singing songs of love.
Histories of ages past
Unenlightened shadows cast
Down through all eternity
The crying of humanity
It's then when the Hurdy Gurdy Man
Comes singing songs of love
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Yes, we did have this thread about 9 months ago. To paraphrase my opinion from that thread:
Each had shared writing/arranging gifts (both lyrical and both musical genius) that encouraged, inspired AND enhanced the other's. While sharing similar enivironmental exposure as youth allowed for common grounding, both had enough differences in personality type and personal style enfolding counterbalance to their combined efforts.
While each were prolific and enjoyed a degree of success apart from the other post-Beatles, by virture of the strength of their individual genius, neither alone could effect the enduring magic that permeated the music they produced through shared resources.
While Beatles, though they usually wrote solo, they still relied on one another as critic, collaborator, competitor and completer for each song they added to the band's portfolio. The nuances of the other was almost always found in the music of each. One of the best illustrations of this completion process is on "Getting Better." Paul was just not completely happy with it after he shared his initial song with John. John suggested adding the words, "It can't get any worse." That small addition made the song come to life and it was recorded. There was Paul's optimism tempered by John's cynicism and the result was a song nearly everyone could relate to in some way.
Add to their creative virtuosity, the musical influence of George Harrison, the binding affected by Ringo and the freedom awarded by their producer George Martin, in addition to the true love they all had for one another (until near the end of the band's life) and you have a songwriting duo whose collaboration exceeded the total of their individual input.
One could not have been better than the other .... one WAS the other's best part.
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The Love were an awesome band.
Love also had another album title "For Sale" Very good music complexly elemental in a "you could have made this album too" way.
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I thought it was Rodgers and Hammerstein.
Anyway, I want to get copies of their musicals so I can watch them with my daughter some day.
You are correct, Jenny. There is a "d" in Richard Rodgers' name. I used to watch their musicals on video (the ones that had been made into movies) with my 2 daughters when they were younger. Great entertainment and unforgettable music.
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I couldn't get your links to work, Bluesboy. Perhaps it's just my 'puter.
I know The Righteous Brothers did a .. well .. righteous rendition of it on their Greatest Hits album.
Rogers (with an "s") and Hammerstein were extremely sympatico and prolific. One of their most profound songs (and to a degree their most non-theatrical) is in the play South Pacific. It deals overtly with racism, but can apply to any anti-social behavior; "You Must Be Carefully Taught."
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TOP TEN TEENAGE DEATH SONGS FROM THE 1960's:
1. Last Kiss - Frank Wilson & The Cavalier's
2. Dead Man's Curve - Jan & Dean
3. Leader Of The Pack - The Shangri-La's
4. Ebony Eyes - The Everly Brothers
5. No Surfing Today - The Four Seasons
6. The Water Was Red - Johnny Cymbal
7. Fallout Shelter - Billy Chambers
8. Moody River - Pat Boone
9. Tell Laura I Love Her - Ray Peterson
10. Ode To Billy Joe - Bobbie Gentry
Running Bear - Johnny Preston
El Paso - Marty Robbins
Big John - Jimmy Dean
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Say what you will about Peter Cetera, but the man had/has an appealingly distinctive voice, could sing excellent harmonies, a good songwriter and was a better than average bassist for Chicago. The entire band got way too comercial after about the Chicago 8 album. Today they are all just the shell of a great memory.
My personal favorites:
Lowdown
Searchin' For So Long
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10 You Don't Have To Say You Love Me - Dusty Springfield
9 The Wreck Of The Edmund Fitzgerald - Gordon Lightfoot
8 In My Life - Beatles
7 Desperado - The Eagles
6 I Threw It All Away - Bob Dylan
5 Rainy Night In Georgia - Brook Benton
4 Crying - Roy Orbison
3 Teddy Bear - Red Sovine
2 Until It's Time For You To Go - as performed by Bobby Darin
...and because I have 2 beautiful daughters ...
1 Butterfly Kisses - Bob Carlisle
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Young American - David Bowie
Freedom Rider - Traffic
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In the song "Banga Gong" there is a series of identical lines, "Get it on, Banga Gong, get it on." repeated by the lead vocalist and two female backup singers. When the lines are supposed to stop repeating, one of the backup singers stops; but the lead singer says "Get it.." before he stops and the other backup sings "Get it on.." before she stops and then you can hear the lead singer take a deep breath as if realizing they messed up.
On "Eight Days A Week" the third (last) verse, Paul repeats the first verse and John repeats the second verse over top of one another, but they end the verse in sync somehow.
On the Beach Boys live party version of "Barbara Ann" there are numerous gaffs (probably for effect), but the biggest is at the beginning of the instrumental break, Mike Love says, "Carl, bring me the ashtray!"
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I have read poems with this feel to them before. This is as emotional and as readable as any. It is what I term "the unanswerable angst of youth." Most of us have suffered through this at some point if beyond, say, 22 years old. I feel this poem would be more effective for the soul of the poet and affective to the reader, if you could get specific with your problems and poetically describe the reasons for the pain, not the results thereof. A nonspecific rant is like a small child crying; we feel badly the crying started and want to aid in alleviating what hurts. We must know the exact problem in order to help. Without this information we just want to get away from the noise.
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My Little Black Egg by the Nightcrawlers; so easy and yet so catchy.
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There is a great documentary out on The Band, and I believe it is available through larger libraries and some video stores in VHS or DVD.
One fact; Robbie recruited a classically trained pianist into the group who taught the other members how to read and write music because they were all playing by ear and by memory before they became big.
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Andrew, Because you make your honest heart available for others to investigate by writing a poem and posting it, you must be prepared for someone's honest response without becoming defensive. "When I look at the World" is an excellent example of someone desiring to outline, in rythmic cadence, their innermost feelings on paper, which is what a poet does. As for comments from your readers, they have the right to embrace your thoughts, reject your thoughts or just offer their honest ideas to you with the intention of helping you relate to a broader reading audience in developing your style. Use this information, do not reject it. I feel you are a young writer with budding talent, not a literary giant. But ALL literary giants started as a budding talent. Take the feedback here and be thankful for it and do not denigrate it. Afterall, no one had to take their valuable time to reply in response to your writing, but your writing DID elict their responses. THAT is what a writer hopes to do. Whether a writer's work is loved is another issue that has more to do with the writer than the respondents.
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Benita, I can relate. I had an abusive, cold, distant father. Hard on all the family members, I was the only son and felt so alone and unmentored my whole childhood. He become my object of derision and scorn, upon whom I blamed all my failings until I was 29 years old. Then, one day I thought, "If I lay blame for my rough spots in life on him; I must also give him credit for any success that I have had." I then tried to think of just 3 reasons for which I might be thankful to him. Once I came up with three (and two were weak) I made a decision to show him unconditional love, where he could not do the same for me. It was one of the most difficult endeavors I have undertaken. Slowly, very slowly, we began to mend our relationship. He died at 92, with the last 25 years of his life finally understanding what a priviledge it is to be a father. And at his deathbed it was by then an easy habit to tell him I loved him. I thank God I did not let him go without this reconciliation begun when I was over 30 years old.
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The Marmalade - Early 70's: great vocals and harmonies, great musicianship, very competent writers and arrangers, one top 40 hit in the USA (Reflections Of My Life), one album (I still have it) and phfffft, they were gone.
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Rossington-Collins Band
Black Oak Arkansas
Ozark Mountain Daredevils
George Thorogood (to a point)
Foghat (to a point)
New Riders of the Purple Sage
Pure Prairie League
Little River Band
Raging Slab
Artimus Pyle
Steve Earle
Copperhead
any Van Zant brother
any Winter brother
CCR, The Band, and the Grateful Dead can also fall under this category. But I absolutely love Skynyrd, Outlaws, and Blackfoot.
I thought The Little River Band was from Australia?
An old solo act, very very good; Tom Rush.
The Quicksilver Messenger Service also had a southern rock sound.
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Jeannie C. Riley - Harper Valley P.T.A.
T. Rex - Bang A Gong (Get It On)
Ten Years After - I'd Love to Change the World
Terry Jacks - Seasons in the Sun
Rick Derringer - Rock & Roll Hootchie Koo
Some other chart entries by above listed artists:
Jeannie C Riley - The Girl Most Likely
T Rex - Hot Love
Ten Years After - I'm Going Home (big boost from movie Woodstock)
Terry Jacks - Which Way You Going, Billy?
Rick Derringer - Hang On Sloopy
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Maybe We Can Try Again - Champaign
Hold On A Little Bit Tighter - Alive and Kickin
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Doo Waa Diddy - Manfred Mann
There she was
Just a-walking down the street
Singing do wah diddy diddy dum diddy do
Snapping her fingers
And a-shuffling her feet
Singing do wah diddy diddy dum diddy do
She looked good
She looked fine
She looked good, she looked fine
That I nearly lost my mind
Before I knew it
She was walking next to me
Singing do wah diddy diddy dum diddy do
Holding our hands
Just as natural as can be
Singing do wah diddy diddy down diddy do
We walked on
To my door
We walked on to my door
Then we kissed a little more
Whoa
I knew we was falling in love
Yes, I did and so
I told her of all the things
I'd been dreaming of
Now we're together
Nearly every single day
Singing do wah diddy diddy dum diddy do
We're so happy
And that's how it's gonna stay
Singing do wah diddy diddy down diddy do
Side note: In the mid 70's a young publicity-seeking congressman actually introduced a bill in the U.S. House of Representatives to make Doo Waa Diddy the national anthem, "Because" he wrote in the bill'a preamble, "the Star Spangled Banner is too difficult to sing, while its lyrics are out of touch with today's younger voters." The bill never made it through committee. But had it been voted into law, just think of the additional incentive for American athletes to win gold at the Olympics.
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Songs that marked turning points in the Beatles musical legacy:
I Want To Hold Your Hand
In My Life
Help
Nowhere Man
Paperback Writer
Norwegian Wood
Eleanor Rigby
Yesterday
Strawberry Fields Forever
A Day In The Life
I Am The Walrus
Something
Within You Without You
Revolution
Come Together
The Ballad Of John And Yoko
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Pioneers and those they influenced directly:
The Everly Brothers - Simon and Garfunkel
Little Richard - Paul McCartney and John Lennon
Woody Guthrie - Bob Dylan
Billie Holiday - Aretha Franklin
Les Paul - Jimi Hendrix
Jimmy Rogers - Jerry Garcia
Johnnie Ray - Elvis Presley
Roy Orbison - Bruce Springsteen
Ray Charles - Everyone
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"Indept converse" is probably not what you meant and if it is, you lost me because I don't know much about basketball shoes.
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"Tonight?s the night to make a change
So come on and fight
Things are going to be rearranged
Once we stand up tonight"
Problem is, 1100 hours is in the morning. Maybe you mean 2300 hours.
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Buddy Miles is one cooking drummer/vocalist
He has a solo album titled "Them Changes" that is dynamite. He also recorded with Hendrix a live album titled "Band of Gypsies."