Shawna Posted October 8, 2007 Report Share Posted October 8, 2007 I just ask for the word "most" in front of the anti-rap statements, leaving open the possibility that there might be one rap act that is not about the bad stuff. Rap, by and large Rock, for the most part does this suffice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue_n_white Posted October 8, 2007 Report Share Posted October 8, 2007 As time goes on I realize Just what you mean To me And now Now that you're near Promise your love That I've waited to share And dreams Of our moments together Color my world with hope of loving you. Colour My World - Chicago We all find examples. This one is mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farin Posted October 8, 2007 Report Share Posted October 8, 2007 I like examples now THAT one's subtle Sometimes it's hard to be a woman Giving all your love to just one man You'll have bad times And he'll have good times Doin things that you don't understand But if you love him You'll forgive him Even though he's hard to understand And if you love him Oh, be proud of him Cause after all he's just a man Stand by your man Give him two arms to cling to And something warm to come to when nights are cold and lonely Stand by your man And show the world you love him Keep giving all the love you can Stand by your man Stand by your man And show the world you love him Keep giving all the love you can Stand by your man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Levis Posted October 8, 2007 Report Share Posted October 8, 2007 (edited) As time goes on I realize Just what you mean To me And now Now that you're near Promise your love That I've waited to share And dreams Of our moments together Color my world with hope of loving you. Colour My World - Chicago We all find examples. This one is mine. You're trying to tell us rock is good? We know that already. Edited October 8, 2007 by Guest quote necessary... not like people wouldn't have figured it out on their own Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLizard Posted October 8, 2007 Report Share Posted October 8, 2007 I think he's trying to tell us Chicago is good. That's stretching it a little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Seeker Posted October 8, 2007 Report Share Posted October 8, 2007 (edited) Wait wait... what's that example for? Degrading women subtly? I think I missed something (talking to Martin and bluenwhite) Edited October 8, 2007 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farin Posted October 8, 2007 Report Share Posted October 8, 2007 Wait wait... what's that example for? Degrading women subtly? I think I missed something (talking to Martin and bluenwhite) "Stand by your man" is one of the most subtle misogynistic songs I know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Seeker Posted October 8, 2007 Report Share Posted October 8, 2007 Alright... yes, I agree with Stand By Your Man, now that I;ve read it again... but Colour My World? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farin Posted October 8, 2007 Report Share Posted October 8, 2007 well, blue'n'white probably wanted to give an opposite example... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Seeker Posted October 8, 2007 Report Share Posted October 8, 2007 Ah... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawna Posted October 8, 2007 Report Share Posted October 8, 2007 Rap example: Get the f**k out my house 'Fore I grab you by your hair and slap d**k to your mouth B***h all you can do is d**k suck Rock example: I make the pussy purr with The stroke of my hand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Levis Posted October 8, 2007 Report Share Posted October 8, 2007 You know... you'd really hate the Chili Peppers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenacious_Peaches Posted October 8, 2007 Report Share Posted October 8, 2007 *sighing heavily* I did specify the word most, but I suppose I will accept your wording, ma'am. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenacious_Peaches Posted October 8, 2007 Report Share Posted October 8, 2007 I'd like everyone to know that if I was a mod in this thread, I would totally split it at the point where this went from Beastie Boy/Hall of Fame specific to "rock good" vs "rap bad". Nothing wrong with a little heated debate (provided it's friendly, and I think for the most part it has been), but one subject has nothing to do with the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue_n_white Posted October 8, 2007 Report Share Posted October 8, 2007 I'd like everyone to know that if I was a mod in this thread, I would totally split it at the point where this went from Beastie Boy/Hall of Fame specific to "rock good" vs "rap bad". Nothing wrong with a little heated debate (provided it's friendly, and I think for the most part it has been), but one subject has nothing to do with the other. Well I think the mod,whomever it is,realizes it's a lively debate and really there are very few of those on here. I know I have had my feathers ruffled in this thread but I have enjoyed sharing my points of view and seeing the views of others,even if I disagreed with them.I have said it before that it would be a really boring site if everybody agreed with everybody else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawna Posted October 8, 2007 Report Share Posted October 8, 2007 I did specify the word most, but I suppose I will accept your wording, ma'am. back atcha I knew that'd wad your panties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farin Posted October 8, 2007 Report Share Posted October 8, 2007 no, "splitting" would only involve cutting certain posts out of here and putting them in an other (or new) thread I, myself, see absolutly no reason to close the thread (that's what you meant) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawna Posted October 8, 2007 Report Share Posted October 8, 2007 it would be a really boring site if everybody agreed with everybody else. I agree with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawna Posted October 8, 2007 Report Share Posted October 8, 2007 You know... you'd really hate the Chili Peppers. yeah... not much of a fan, I admit... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blind-fitter Posted October 8, 2007 Report Share Posted October 8, 2007 Well I think the mod,whomever it is,realizes it's a lively debate and really there are very few of those on here. There used to be plenty. I know I have had my feathers ruffled in this thread but I have enjoyed sharing my points of view and seeing the views of others,even if I disagreed with them.I have said it before that it would be a really boring site if everybody agreed with everybody else. Congratulatiuons; you've passed. NEXT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweet Jane 61 Posted October 8, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 8, 2007 I haven't posted much in the debate, but I think that it has branched out is fine, I mean that is what we do on here, every thread takes a turn but it is still tied to the theme, even if only by a small thin line. I have enjoyed reading all the posts and think it's wonderful we have such strong opinions and can share them here on SF. And for my 2 cents, The Beastie Boys do not belong in the hall, they are rap pure and simple, just as Madonna is pop, and Donna Summer is disco. But I do think that in the future we will be seeing more artists being nominated that will make us question what in the hell is going on with The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daslied Posted October 8, 2007 Report Share Posted October 8, 2007 Rap example: Get the f**k out my house 'Fore I grab you by your hair and slap d**k to your mouth B***h all you can do is d**k suck Rock example: I make the pussy purr with The stroke of my hand I'd be much more ashamed to be the author of the second bit. That being said, I'm not much of a fan of listening to dudes talk about tail they obtained. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue_n_white Posted October 8, 2007 Report Share Posted October 8, 2007 There used to be plenty. Congratulatiuons; you've passed. NEXT! Not asking what I have passed out of fear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Seeker Posted October 8, 2007 Report Share Posted October 8, 2007 I think one of the things is influence... if you look at the past few years, a lot is rap and the like, and those artists are influenced by other rappers, or just bands like the Beastie Boys (depends on how far you go back, of course). So I think over time the number of really influential artists included more and more rappers and less rock bands, simply because rap grew rapidly. I think that's what the Hall takes into consideration, and not just bands which can be defined as rock'n'roll. (right thread this time! ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenacious_Peaches Posted October 8, 2007 Report Share Posted October 8, 2007 No, no, no...I don't want to close it. I just meant that my OCD likes for everything to be in its respective place and that this seemed like two separate threads happening in one area. I am definitely not into closing threads or deleting threads because things get heated. Heat is good for the soul every so often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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