RonJonSurfer Posted August 24, 2007 Report Share Posted August 24, 2007 Study: Chick Magnets Today Look Like Cavemen Jeanna Bryner LiveScience Staff Writer LiveScience.com Guys with bulldog-like faces have been chick magnets throughout human evolutionary history. A recent study of the skulls of human ancestors and modern humans finds that women, and thereby, evolution, selected for males with relatively short upper faces. The region between the brow and the upper-lip is scrunched proportionately to the overall size of their heads. Among the men who fit the bill: Will Smith and Brad Pitt. In a past study, researchers found a similar facial pattern in chimpanzees, with males having relatively shorter and broader faces compared with females, controlling for body size. Men with "mini mugs" might have been most attractive to the opposite sex and thus most likely to attract mates for reproduction, passing along the striking features to the next generation and so forth, said lead study author Eleanor Weston, a paleontologist at the Natural History Museum in London. "The evolution of facial appearance is central to understanding what makes men and women attractive to each other," Weston said. "We have found the distance between the lip and brow was probably immensely important to what made us attractive in the past, as it does now." Whereas past studies have suggested facial symmetry and facial masculinity play roles in this game of desire, none have provided evidence of an evolutionary shaping of male and female faces. "I think it's a very nice approach," said Randy Thornhill, an evolutionary psychologist at the University of New Mexico, referring to the study. Though not involved in it, Thornhill agrees with the finding that certain facial features evolved due to sexual selection. Facial coordinates The researchers calculated certain facial coordinates on 68 males and 53 female skulls from a contemporary native southern Africa population ranging in age from infant to 30 years old. Measurements included distances between the point between the eye brows and upper lip and from cheekbone to cheekbone. Weston and her colleagues also examined facial data from fossil hominin skulls dating back to 2.6 million years ago, unearthed in Kenyan deposits as part of the Koobi Fora Research Project IV. These skulls represented five species: Homo erectus, Homo ergaster, Paranthropus boisei, Australopithecus africanus and Paranthropus robustus. These facial coordinates were then compared with the contemporary coordinates. In spite of their bulkier bodies (about 15 percent more massive than women's bodies), and similarly broader faces, men have upper faces similar in height to women's faces, the scientists found. But compared with the rest of the head, a guy's mid-face is compressed. The differences held throughout human history. A simple ratio of upper face length to broadness could serve as a proxy for facial attractiveness, the scientists say in a report on their research published in the online journal PLoS ONE. Masculine appeal The scientists are not certain why today's distinctive male face and its proportions evolved. "A shorter upper face does serve to exaggerate the size of other face features such as the flare of the cheeks and the size of the jaw, but this might not be why it developed," Weston told LiveScience. "Rather the shorter [and] broader the male face the more ‘masculine’ and the less ‘feminine'—based on biological face changes that take place during growth and development—the individual becomes," she said. Also, this facial development was accompanied by a shrinking of guys' canine teeth, so men appeared less threatening to competitors, yet attractive to mates. While the scientists who authored the current study examined skulls and did not specifically study how modern faces fit the findings, the Natural History Museum press officers applied Weston's findings to a "quick and dirty" survey of photos of celebrities. They came up with a list of stars with masculine faces, listing them from most to least masculine according to facial dimensions: Will Smith, Peter Andre, Justin Timberlake, Thierry Henry, Brad Pitt, David Beckham, Johnny Depp and Kanye West. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweet Jane 61 Posted August 24, 2007 Report Share Posted August 24, 2007 They came up with a list of stars with masculine faces, listing them from most to least masculine according to facial dimensions: Will Smith, Peter Andre, Justin Timberlake, Thierry Henry, Brad Pitt, David Beckham, Johnny Depp and Kanye West. Yep exactly who I think of when I think about cavemen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamisammy29 Posted August 24, 2007 Report Share Posted August 24, 2007 Barney Rubble did pornos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweet Jane 61 Posted August 24, 2007 Report Share Posted August 24, 2007 Barney Rubble did pornos. And I just bet you have the whole collection sammy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenny Posted August 24, 2007 Report Share Posted August 24, 2007 No wonder I get all hot and bothered when those Geico caveman commercials come on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamisammy29 Posted August 24, 2007 Report Share Posted August 24, 2007 MUSICAL INTERLUDE: "And everywhere I go, There's always something to remind me Of another place and time Where love that travelled far had found me. We stayed outside 'til two, Waiting for the light to come back, But hid in talk I knew, Until you asked what I was thinking." Will remind, will remind, will remind me, Will remind, will remind, will remind me, Will remind, will remind, will remind me, Will remind, will remind, will remind me." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenny Posted August 24, 2007 Report Share Posted August 24, 2007 Be kind, I'm at work with no access to a cold shower! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonJonSurfer Posted August 24, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2007 Joe Jackson - Is She Really Going Out With Him? Pretty women out walking with gorillas down my street From my window I'm staring while my coffee grows cold Look over there! (Where?) There's a lady that I used to know She's married now, or engaged, or something, so I am told Is she really going out with him? Is she really gonna take him home tonight? Is she really going out with him? 'Cause if my eyes don't deceive me, There's something going wrong around here Tonight's the night when I go to all the parties down my street. I wash my hair and I kid myself I look ***really*** smooth Look over there! (Where?) Here comes Jeanie with her new boyfriend They say that looks don't count for much If so, there goes your proof Is she really going out with him? Is she really gonna take him home tonight? Is she really going out with him? 'Cause if my eyes don't deceive me, There's something going wrong around here But if looks could kill There's a man there who's marked down as dead. Cause I've had my fill Listen you, take your hands off her head I get so mean around this scene Is she really going out with him? Is she really gonna take him home tonight? Is she really going out with him? 'Cause if my eyes don't deceive me There's something going wrong around here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farin Posted August 24, 2007 Report Share Posted August 24, 2007 MUSICAL INTERLUDE: "And everywhere I go, There's always something to remind me Of another place and time Where love that travelled far had found me. We stayed outside 'til two, Waiting for the light to come back, But hid in talk I knew, Until you asked what I was thinking." Will remind, will remind, will remind me, Will remind, will remind, will remind me, Will remind, will remind, will remind me, Will remind, will remind, will remind me." did you just quote a Röyksopp song? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenny Posted August 24, 2007 Report Share Posted August 24, 2007 Here's the song he's quoting, Martin. Is that the group that sings that? One of the famous caveman commercials Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamisammy29 Posted August 24, 2007 Report Share Posted August 24, 2007 did you just quote a Röyksopp song? I did. But I will admit, I had never heard it before the Geico Caveman commercial. It just fits hilariously into that commercial, so you can't help but like the tune. I had HEARD of Royksopp before hearing the tune, but had never heard them. A month or so back, I had to look up who sang that song. It was Royksopp. They rule!....well, kinda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farin Posted August 24, 2007 Report Share Posted August 24, 2007 yes, it is the one in the commercial is the album version to that song... Remind Me (Single version) ~ Röyksopp is a bit different (faster), but I like love both versions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawna Posted August 24, 2007 Report Share Posted August 24, 2007 Justin Timberlake "masculine"?? who'da thunk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farin Posted August 24, 2007 Report Share Posted August 24, 2007 oh, they have the Album Version on youtube too Brave men tell the truth, A wise man's tools are analogies and puzzles, A woman holds her tongue, Knowing silence will speak for her... I love that line(s) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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