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Rolling stone is crap. I personnaly am completely disgusted with ANY Rolling Stone Magazine opinion. I was recently reading another post and someone said he picked That's All Right as the first Rock n' Roll album because Rolling Stone said it was. a very wise member named PinkFloyd1973 put it this way:

ROLLING STONE is to MUSIC as

NATIONAL ENQUIRER is to the SCIENTIFIC WORLD.

perfect

I just thought the news should get out that it is good for lining the garbage can and not much else.

JUST TO PROVE MY POINT, HERE IS THEIR TOP 100 GUITARIST LIST

I agree with the first four and that is about it

1 Jimi Hendrix

2 Duane Allman of the Allman Brothers Band

3 B.B. King

4 Eric Clapton

5 Robert Johnson

6 Chuck Berry

7 Stevie Ray Vaughan

8 Ry Cooder

9 Jimmy Page of Led Zeppelin

10 Keith Richards of the Rolling Stones

11Kirk Hammett of Metallica

12 Kurt Cobain of Nirvana

13 Jerry Garcia of the Grateful Dead

14 Jeff Beck

15 Carlos Santana

16 Johnny Ramone of the Ramones

17 Jack White of the White Stripes

18 John Frusciante of the Red Hot Chili Peppers

19 Richard Thompson

20 James Burton

21 George Harrison

22 Mike Bloomfield

23 Warren Haynes

24 The Edge of U2

25 Freddy King

26 Tom Morello of Rage Against the Machine and Audioslave

27 Mark Knopfler of Dire Straits

28 Stephen Stills

29 Ron Asheton of the Stooges

30 Buddy Guy

31 [bleep] Dale

32 John Cipollina of Quicksilver Messenger Service

33 & 34 Lee Ranaldo, Thurston Moore of Sonic Youth

35 John Fahey

36 Steve Cropper of Booker T. and the MG's

37 Bo Diddley

38 Peter Green of Fleetwood Mac

39 Brian May of Qeen

40 John Fogerty of Creedence Clearwater Revival

41 Clarence White of the Byrds

42 Robert Fripp of King Crimson

43 Eddie Hazel of Funkadelic

44 Scotty Moore

45 Frank Zappa

46 Les Paul

47 T-Bone Walker

48 Joe Perry of Aerosmith

49 John McLaughlin

50 Pete Townshend

51 Paul Kossoff of Free

52 Lou Reed

53 Mickey Baker

54 Jorma Kaukonen of Jefferson Airplane

55 Ritchie Blackmore of Deep Purple

56 Tom Verlaine of Television

57 Roy Buchanan

58 Dickey Betts

59 & 60 Jonny Greenwood, Ed O'Brien of Radiohead

61 Ike Turner

62 Zoot Horn Rollo of the Magic Band

63 Danny Gatton

64 Mick Ronson

65 Hubert Sumlin

66 Vernon Reid of Living Colour

67 Link Wray

68 Jerry Miller of Moby Grape

69 Steve Howe of Yes

70 Eddie Van Halen

71 Lightnin' Hopkins

72 Joni Mitchell

73 Trey Anastasio of Phish

74 Johnny Winter

75 Adam Jones of Tool

76 Ali Farka Toure

77 Henry Vestine of Canned Heat

78 Robbie Robertson of the Band

79 Cliff Gallup of the Blue Caps

80 Robert Quine of the Voidoids

81 Derek Trucks

82 David Gilmour of Pink Floyd

83 Neil Young

84 Eddie Cochran

85 Randy Rhoads

86 Tony Iommi of Black Sabbath

87 Joan Jett

88 Dave Davies of the Kinks

89 D. Boon of the Minutemen

90 Glen Buxton of Alice Cooper

91 Robby Krieger of the Doors

92 & 93 Fred "Sonic" Smith, Wayne Kramer of the MC5

94 Bert Jansch

95 Kevin Shields of My Bloody Valentine

96 Angus Young of AC/DC

97 Robert Randolph

98 Leigh Stephens of Blue Cheer

99 Greg Ginn of Black Flag

100 Kim Thayil of Soundgarden

Peace~Daniel

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You dont think Robert Johnson should be in there! Do you know who he is? I dont wanna get to preaching but every bluesmamn I bet you has covered one of his songs. I bet you think you dont even know one of his songs but you do maybe 3 or four(he sold his soul at the crossroads come on thats freaking awesome). Who did they leave out? I just dont think you know who these guys are. A great guitarist isn't just someone that can play super fast licks. Robert Johnson influenced alot of people with the way he played now there might be people that copied his style and can maybe play it better but they are just duplicating this man.

Seriously though who did they leave out?

Who do you think should have been left out?

In my opinion Kurt Cobain and the Metallica guy should be dropped down 10 maybe 15 notches.

I see some people they left of but hell nobody is going to be happy with a list ogf guitarist because we all have different tastes. BUT ROBERT JOHNSON COME ON DUDE[RESPECT]

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As a matter of fact I have a record of Robert Johnson and I am 1 years old so I suppose you could consider me a fan. And I have a few B.B. King's so don't tell me I don't like the blues. I am sorry.

To the rest of the list:

JACK WHITE 17????I have picked up a guitar seriously about 10 times and I can play two of his songs. at least most of them. SO either I'm the next Hendrix, or they are not tough.

Curt Cobain 12???? ..... no comment.....maybe he could trade spots with Eddie Van Halen

JOHNNY RAMONE 16??? I love the Ramones but come on.

George Harrison 21??? Again I love the Beatles but not that much

WAKE UP DUDE DO YOU LISTEN TO ANY """GUITAR"""???

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A list of the 100 greatest whatevers is now a standard feature of all music magazines when they find themselves short of features to fill their pages , so Rolling Stone is no more guilty than the rest.

At best, they might encourage you to listen to people that you aren't familiar with. At worst, you'll just ignore them. But dont get so worked up over it; these lists aren't SUPPOSED to be a definitive guide, they're just a bunch of opinions and nothing more. Of course, its interesting to read them and disagree with them...why do you think they get published in the first place?... but never take them as gospel.

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A list of the 100 greatest whatevers is now a standard feature of all music magazines when they find themselves short of features to fill their pages , so Rolling Stone is no more guilty than the rest.

At best, they might encourage you to listen to people that you aren't familiar with. At worst, you'll just ignore them. But dont get so worked up over it; these lists aren't SUPPOSED to be a definitive guide, they're just a bunch of opinions and nothing more. Of course, its interesting to read them and disagree with them...why do you think they get published in the first place?... but never take them as gospel.

Belive me, I will not

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Just like any list comprised of favourite picks, there's always gonna be those left out or those which the reader feels shouldn't be there.

It's like this, a person could write their favourite 100 guitarists and another person reading it might like every single selection out of the 100. But reality dictates that humans have a relentless preoccupation with thinking that they know what's better than the other guy. So, even if a perfect list was made, no one would agree except the person who made the perfect list for themself. For this I'm thankful.

No two people think exactly the same. If it ever were to happen, life as we know it would cease to exist because individuality would be a thing of the past. The individual must believe in what is right as well as believe that others believe they know what is right. When it comes to the sound which we call music, nothing is wrong except to the one thinking it.

Relish the fact that we each have our own minds, for one day, our minds will not be our own.

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The one thing that really strikes me as weird about this list is that it includes musicians who play VERY different types of music...so how can you possibly try to compare them against each other?

For instance, what sort of criteria can be used to argue that folk guitarists like Bert Jansch and John Fahey are 'better' or 'worse' than, say, Steve Howe or Richie Blackmore?? It can't be done.

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No I dont listen to guitar I listen to music because guitar players arent bands. I know you said you like the Ramones but maybe you dont understand why they are important if it wasn't for them we would still be playing 20 minute solos. I have playing the guitar for 15 years so I knoow my guitar sorry to have to drop that but I think it was called out.

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It's a solid list, they named most of the great guitarists, but in general I never really agree with Rolling Stones list making, their Top albums & top song lists were bad enough, & if you think Rolling Stone is the absolute worst, try Spin's opinions of the greatest.

17 Jack White of the White Stripes

Uhm?... how about ... NO

46 Les Paul

70 Eddie Van Halen

82 David Gilmour

They have some excellent guitarists underrated

Joe Perry is not better than Eddie Van Halen

Most of what was listed before Gilmour is false IMO

They fail to give any credit to the Eagles

I could nit-pick on this list all day long, if I had the time

In my opinion ... the Metallica guy should be dropped down 10 maybe 15 notches.

Early-day Kirk Hammett is talented enough for his placing, but I guess that's all a reflection of my opinion, not to conflict with yours.

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Rolling stone is crap. I personnaly am completely disgusted with ANY Rolling Stone Magazine opinion. I was recently reading another post and someone said he picked That's All Right as the first Rock n' Roll album because Rolling Stone said it was. a very wise member named PinkFloyd1973 put it this way:

ROLLING STONE is to MUSIC as

NATIONAL ENQUIRER is to the SCIENTIFIC WORLD.

perfect

I just thought the news should get out that it is good for lining the garbage can and not much else.

JUST TO PROVE MY POINT, HERE IS THEIR TOP 100 GUITARIST LIST

I agree with the first four and that is about it

1 Jimi Hendrix

2 Duane Allman of the Allman Brothers Band

3 B.B. King

4 Eric Clapton

5 Robert Johnson

6 Chuck Berry

7 Stevie Ray Vaughan

8 Ry Cooder

9 Jimmy Page of Led Zeppelin

10 Keith Richards of the Rolling Stones

11Kirk Hammett of Metallica

12 Kurt Cobain of Nirvana

13 Jerry Garcia of the Grateful Dead

14 Jeff Beck

15 Carlos Santana

16 Johnny Ramone of the Ramones

17 Jack White of the White Stripes

18 John Frusciante of the Red Hot Chili Peppers

19 Richard Thompson

20 James Burton

21 George Harrison

22 Mike Bloomfield

23 Warren Haynes

24 The Edge of U2

25 Freddy King

26 Tom Morello of Rage Against the Machine and Audioslave

27 Mark Knopfler of Dire Straits

28 Stephen Stills

29 Ron Asheton of the Stooges

30 Buddy Guy

31 [bleep] Dale

32 John Cipollina of Quicksilver Messenger Service

33 & 34 Lee Ranaldo, Thurston Moore of Sonic Youth

35 John Fahey

36 Steve Cropper of Booker T. and the MG's

37 Bo Diddley

38 Peter Green of Fleetwood Mac

39 Brian May of Qeen

40 John Fogerty of Creedence Clearwater Revival

41 Clarence White of the Byrds

42 Robert Fripp of King Crimson

43 Eddie Hazel of Funkadelic

44 Scotty Moore

45 Frank Zappa

46 Les Paul

47 T-Bone Walker

48 Joe Perry of Aerosmith

49 John McLaughlin

50 Pete Townshend

51 Paul Kossoff of Free

52 Lou Reed

53 Mickey Baker

54 Jorma Kaukonen of Jefferson Airplane

55 Ritchie Blackmore of Deep Purple

56 Tom Verlaine of Television

57 Roy Buchanan

58 Dickey Betts

59 & 60 Jonny Greenwood, Ed O'Brien of Radiohead

61 Ike Turner

62 Zoot Horn Rollo of the Magic Band

63 Danny Gatton

64 Mick Ronson

65 Hubert Sumlin

66 Vernon Reid of Living Colour

67 Link Wray

68 Jerry Miller of Moby Grape

69 Steve Howe of Yes

70 Eddie Van Halen

71 Lightnin' Hopkins

72 Joni Mitchell

73 Trey Anastasio of Phish

74 Johnny Winter

75 Adam Jones of Tool

76 Ali Farka Toure

77 Henry Vestine of Canned Heat

78 Robbie Robertson of the Band

79 Cliff Gallup of the Blue Caps

80 Robert Quine of the Voidoids

81 Derek Trucks

82 David Gilmour of Pink Floyd

83 Neil Young

84 Eddie Cochran

85 Randy Rhoads

86 Tony Iommi of Black Sabbath

87 Joan Jett

88 Dave Davies of the Kinks

89 D. Boon of the Minutemen

90 Glen Buxton of Alice Cooper

91 Robby Krieger of the Doors

92 & 93 Fred "Sonic" Smith, Wayne Kramer of the MC5

94 Bert Jansch

95 Kevin Shields of My Bloody Valentine

96 Angus Young of AC/DC

97 Robert Randolph

98 Leigh Stephens of Blue Cheer

99 Greg Ginn of Black Flag

100 Kim Thayil of Soundgarden

Peace~Daniel

Only the first four man, Clapton basically copied Chuck Berry.

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They should come up with a longer list, here's a few that they forgot:

  • John Petrucci - Dream Theatre
    Don Felder/Joe Walsh - Eagles
    Slash - Guns N' Roses
    Martin Barre - Jethro Tull
    Eric Johnson
    Ace Frehley - Kiss
    Allen Collins/Gary Rossington - Lynyrd Skynyrd
    Yngwie Malmsteen
    Ted Nugent
    Zakk Wylde - Ozzy, various
    Dimebag Darrel - Pantera
    Mike McCready - Pearl Jam
    Alex Lifeson - Rush
    Joe Satriani
    Elliott Randal/Larry Carlton - Steely Dan
    Steve Vai
    Billy Gibbons - ZZTop

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I was recently reading another post and someone said he picked That's All Right as the first Rock n' Roll album because Rolling Stone said it was.

That was me. It was just a joke! :laughing: :neener:

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I'm a sucker for lists. I read all the best guitarists/bands lists, watched the 100 best comedians on comedy central, 51 greatest smartasses, but when I'm done, I realize, wait, why do I care? All lists are trying to appeal to mainstream, because that makes more money. and believe me, they aren't doing it for the love of sharing their opinions, its for the money. They could have just put in a list "100 best selling guitarists" and just left it like that.

Its a shame that Rolling Stone runs its magazine the way it does. Millions of people read it, and they should use their power to promote underground or less well known or respected bands, but still stay with the mainstream, so they don't lose readers.

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I'm a sucker for lists. I read all the best guitarists/bands lists, watched the 100 best comedians on comedy central, 51 greatest smartasses, but when I'm done, I realize, wait, why do I care? All lists are trying to appeal to mainstream, because that makes more money. and believe me, they aren't doing it for the love of sharing their opinions, its for the money. They could have just put in a list "100 best selling guitarists" and just left it like that.

Usually I watch them on TV, or even in list format on websites, I'm not so interested in what ranking they produce, I just like to see the whole compilation of the greatest. As long as they include all of the good on there, it's usually worthwhile to watch or read.

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