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The Black Crowes' Hard To Handle is a pallid cover version of the song originally cooked to perfection by Otis Redding.

Ah, man, I thought the Black Crowes' version was the original. I should really research these things. :P

On another subject, what's with the smiley that it put at the front of this topic? I didn't put no icon on it when I made this thread.

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Joe Strummer was adopted.

Johnny: it's good to know that what you lack in integrity you can make up for in bare-faced dishonesty.

From Marcus Gray's "The Clash: The Last Gang In Town" , a 500+ page band biography, which "masterfully deconstructs the Clash's self-mythology" ( Q Magazine) and is acclaimed for its "meticulous research and extensive interviewing" which "make it the only book ever to get close to the reality behind the Clash myth" (Mojo Magazine).

"(Joe's) father, Ronald Ralph Mellor, known as Ron, was born in India in December 1916. 'His father died when he was eight, so he was an orphan. He went to an orphan school', Joe told Melody Maker's Caroline Coon in 1977, in his first sustained effort to validate his own background.'Then, because he was so smart, they gave him a scholarship to university, and he was really proud that he'd come from nothing, with no chance, to having a degree. Even though it was from the poxy University of Lucknow. He came to London and joined the civil service as a junior bum. Then he became a not-so-junior bum, and then he reached his high point and became a diplomat going overseas.' In fact, the Second World War insisted on a lengthy interruption to this sequence of events. Ron served in the armed forces from 1942 to 1947 and it was not until the age of 30 that he joined the Foreigbn Office as a Clerical Officer. Shortly after joining the FO he met Anna Girvan....They married on 22nd October, 1949, when Ron was nearly 33 and Anna was 34. Another thing Joe neglected to mention to Caroline Coon was that Ron was not totally alone in the world throughout his childhood: according to Iain Gillies, 'Ron had a brother, and a sister or two.' The brother, named Frederick after his father, was a schoolmaster. He stood as one of the witnesses at Ron and Anna's wedding... ...

Ron and Anna set up home together at 22 Sussex Gardens in Paddington, and on 17th March 1951, Anna gave birth to their first son, David Nicholas Mellor... ... That same year, Ron received his first posting abroad and the family moved to Ankara in Turkey. It was here that the future Joe Strummer was born John Graham Mellor on 21st August 1952."

Gray goes on to suggest:

"The criteria for determining class are slippery, but it is generally accepted that- whatever your parents' own provenance- if your father has a degree and a white-collar Civil Service job, you are middle-class".

Whilst on the subject of Strummer: get this.

Strummer was also at times capable of some mind-blowingly preposterous bullshit. If you reckon that's heresy, try this piece of arrant nonsense: 'There's nothing better, if you're having an argument which won't resolve itself any other way, than smashing someone's face in'. Or this , from his first major NME interview, delivered while idly toying with a flick-knife: 'Suppose some guy comes up to me and tries to put one over on me and I smash his face up. If he learns something from it, that's creative violence.'

(from "Time Loves A Hero: The Fury Returns" - Nigel Williamson , in "John Lydon: Stories Of Johnny", edited by Rob Johnstone)

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I can ruin any Blues Traveler songs for y'all.

I read an interview once with John Popper (lead singer), who is/was morbidly obese. He said that he got so out of breath once on stage that he hurled into his harmonica, but then swallowed it back down to continue the show.

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Cutesy-faced, blue-eyed soul heartthrob Marti Pellow (of Wet Wet Wet, you'll at least remember "Love Is All Around"): his well-documented wilderness years struggling against heroin addiction might be perceived as karma for the occasion, earlier on in his career, when he told a proportionally-challenged teen-girl autograph-hunter to "F*** off, you fat ****!" then joked about the incident with his band mates afterwards*.

(*To the disgust of witnesses: the support band, whose guitarist later formed a band with yours truly, in case you're doubting the veracity of this tale)

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I get a lotta flack for liking Death In June's music, considering they derive their band name, imagery, and lyrics on Germany's Nazi past. Artistic choices are one thing, another would be knowing they're active Neo Nazis. Same goes for Joy Division. These are a few artists I've been turned off from listening because their image was ruined by reality:

- steve tyler adopted a 14 year old girl in order to sexually molest her.

- aerosmith played for a private barmitzvah held by a war merchant who made his millions selling defective "bullet proof" vests to soldiers fighting in Iraq.

- john lennon was a deadbeat dad and so in love with himself that he married his female equivalent.

- jimmy page sexually molested a 14 year old chick.

- david bowie molested that same 14 year old when she was 13.

- pete townshend and gary glitter got caught buying child pornography.

- vince neil killed a band member of Hanoi Rocks in a drunk driving accident. Adding insult to injury, they named a box set "music to crash your Car To." Not like I actually liked motley crew to begin with. Ha!

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- Steven Tyler adopted a 14 year old girl in order to sexually molest her.

That was Ted Nugent, not Steven Tyler.

-Pete Townshend and Gary Glitter got caught buying child pornography

They had the images on their computers; they were not caught buying it.

None of these corrections make the situations any less creepy and wrong.

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