Farin Posted October 4, 2007 Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 in cases like this it's always interesting to read the Discussion about the article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blind-fitter Posted October 4, 2007 Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 Excellent link Farin. Speaking as one who enjoys a smartly-worded debate, I'd have to congratulate that "Wiki-is-truth" for his dogged persistence, meticulous attention to detail and impeccable reasoning in putting the sycophantic obfuscators on the back foot. If you've got the time and the stomach for it, I'd recommend reading this article for a clearer understanding of what allegedly happened, the nature of Townshend's criminal record and his status (in UK law) as a registered sex offender. Be warned though, it's not the easiest of articles to digest in one go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blind-fitter Posted October 4, 2007 Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 What a "Police Caution" means in UK justice system In order to safeguard the offender's interests, the following conditions must be met before a caution can be administered - there must be evidence of guilt sufficient to give a realistic prospect of conviction; the offender must admit the offence; the offender must understand the significance of a caution and give informed consent to being cautioned. Where the available evidence does not meet the standard normally required to bring a prosecution, a caution cannot be administered. A caution will not be appropriate where a person does not make a clear and reliable admission of the offence (for example if intent is denied or there are doubts about his mental health or intellectual capacity). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blind-fitter Posted October 4, 2007 Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 Pete Townshend paid to download images of child pornography using his credit card. That was how he was traced. Correction: should read "paid to view images of child pornography using his credit card." There seems to be no evidence that he ever downloaded any such images. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Seeker Posted October 5, 2007 Report Share Posted October 5, 2007 I never know what to think about this debate. I've read a lot about it, also the book (well, it wasn't the finished book yet obviously) that he was writing, called A Different Bomb, and while I do support him and believe that he accessed those images for the purpose of research only, I have to say that it was an incredibly stupid thing to do. That said, he wasn't prosecuted, he sent a letter to the FBI before he paid for those pictures, he had his reasons in some way, and I don't think people should drag this on. Sure, he's in the public eye, but... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Seeker Posted October 5, 2007 Report Share Posted October 5, 2007 They had the images on their computers; they were not caught buying it. None of these corrections make the situations any less creepy and wrong. Pete Townshend didn't have any images on his computer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ombre Vivante Posted October 5, 2007 Report Share Posted October 5, 2007 That was Ted Nugent, not Steven Tyler. Wrong. ted nugent adopted a 15 or 16 year old Hawaiian chick so he could have sex with her. steve adopted a 14 year old girl, got her pregnant, and she ended up getting an abortion. It's in the Walk This Way bio. They had the images on their computers; they were not caught buying it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ombre Vivante Posted October 5, 2007 Report Share Posted October 5, 2007 He claimed to be researching a book, which is apparently also how O.J. got off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ombre Vivante Posted October 5, 2007 Report Share Posted October 5, 2007 I never know what to think about this debate. I've read a lot about it, also the book (well, it wasn't the finished book yet obviously) that he was writing, called A Different Bomb, and while I do support him and believe that he accessed those images for the purpose of research only, I have to say that it was an incredibly stupid thing to do. That said, he wasn't prosecuted, he sent a letter to the FBI before he paid for those pictures, he had his reasons in some way, and I don't think people should drag this on. Sure, he's in the public eye, but... Uh, I don't think talking with the FBI gives anyone a carte blanche to commit crimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skybluesky Posted October 6, 2007 Report Share Posted October 6, 2007 Wrong. ted nugent adopted a 15 or 16 year old Hawaiian chick so he could have sex with her. steve adopted a 14 year old girl, got her pregnant, and she ended up getting an abortion. It's in the Walk This Way bio. My mistake. I did not know that about Steven Tyler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Seeker Posted October 6, 2007 Report Share Posted October 6, 2007 That's not what I mean. But it certainly doesn't look like he decided to get some child porn because he felt like it, on the spur of the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heard It On The XM Posted October 17, 2007 Report Share Posted October 17, 2007 While we're on the theme of songs ruined by links to underage sexuality, I'll revisit a song I brought up in a recent Films And Music thread. "Endless Love" by Diana Ross and Lionel Richie is one of the biggest U.S. hit singles, and one of the most haunting, mind-blowingly beautiful love songs, of all time. But does anyone remember the movie it came from? Anyone?!? [* sound of crickets chirping *] Well, after hearing the song recently for the first time in a long while, it occurred to me that I didn't remember a thing about the movie either. So, out of sheer morbid curiosity, your intrepid investigator decided to look up the movie on IMdB. Big, big, *HUGE* honking mistake. In light of its original context, I can never think of the song in quite the same way again. Don't follow the above link unless you want the song forever ruined for you too. (Hint: The movie Endless Love was Brooke Shields' follow-up to The Blue Lagoon, both movies were made while she was still underage, and... let's just say the latter film should probably make anyone's short list of the most blatant typecasts in Hollywood history.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Laurie_ Posted October 17, 2007 Report Share Posted October 17, 2007 I know what you mean about a movie ruining a song......I use to love the song Stuck In The Middle With You by Steeler's Wheel until I saw the movie Reservoir Dogs....Now I don't like the song so much anymore... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuzikTyme Posted October 18, 2007 Report Share Posted October 18, 2007 (edited) I'm not crazy about Michael Madsen anymore either. Cruel bastardo! (the gas splash took the proverbial cake). Just proves what a great actor he is...to overpower Gerry Rafferty, that is. Anyway, nothing like lending an ear . . . reminds me of that artist and his estranged girlfriend, what was his name? Edited October 18, 2007 by Guest spelt Madsen wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenacious_Peaches Posted October 18, 2007 Report Share Posted October 18, 2007 (edited) "Endless Love" by Diana Ross and Lionel Richie is one of the biggest U.S. hit singles, and one of the most haunting, mind-blowingly beautiful love songs, of all time. But does anyone remember the movie it came from? Anyone?!? [* sound of crickets chirping *]) I remember the movie. It skeeved me out beyond belief. I don't recommend it, but the book it was based on scarred my fragile young teenage mind for years after. Yikes. ******************************************* 'Twas Van Gogh, Muzik. Of course you know that, but I'll take the bait anyway. :insert smiley missing one ear here: Edited October 18, 2007 by Guest To answer Muzik's rhetorical question. Get off my back with all the questions, would you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuzikTyme Posted October 18, 2007 Report Share Posted October 18, 2007 :insert smiley missing one ear here: Truly, I think Songfacts needs a Van Gogh smiley. Let's vote on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenacious_Peaches Posted October 18, 2007 Report Share Posted October 18, 2007 I vote yea to the addition of a Van Gogh smiley. Anyone else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Ry 71 Posted October 18, 2007 Report Share Posted October 18, 2007 Do it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny Posted October 18, 2007 Report Share Posted October 18, 2007 Yes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skuff Posted October 23, 2007 Report Share Posted October 23, 2007 I know what you mean, but might it not be "In this ever-changing world in which we're livin'"? Still a bit ham-fisted, but that's McCartney for you. This is one of the most mis-heard lines of Sir McCartney's rule of the pop charts. The tru line is, "But IF this ever changing world in which we're livin' makes you give in and cry, say Live and Let Die! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blind-fitter Posted October 23, 2007 Report Share Posted October 23, 2007 There; didn't I always say that johnnyguitar was an ignoramus? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuzikTyme Posted October 23, 2007 Report Share Posted October 23, 2007 I vote yea to the addition of a Van Gogh smiley. *clears throat, scratches privates and burps* I'm still waiting . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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