edna Posted August 12, 2006 Report Share Posted August 12, 2006 I know very little about politics but there must be a way to get rid of all those insane fanatics who are ready to die for their god, to kill all those who don´t believe in their god and to make a hero out of a 16 years old kid wearing a bomb stuck to his body in a disco, train, market or whatever. I can´t understand how a mother can be proud of her teenage kid who will die to kill plenty of people, people like you and me who just want to live in peace. All those islamists-terrorists must probably ignore that they live in dictatorships and their wealthy leaders don´t give a s*** for their opressed people´s lives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLizard Posted August 13, 2006 Report Share Posted August 13, 2006 Unfortunately, the person who was best able to express how the world should be was shot by a lunatic. Imagine there's no heaven It's easy if you try No hell below us Above us only sky Imagine all the people Living for today... Imagine there's no countries It isn't hard to do Nothing to kill or die for And no religion too Imagine all the people Living life in peace... You may say I'm a dreamer But I'm not the only one I hope someday you'll join us And the world will be as one Imagine no possessions I wonder if you can No need for greed or hunger A brotherhood of man Imagine all the people Sharing all the world... You may say I'm a dreamer But I'm not the only one I hope someday you'll join us And the world will live as one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotoRacerX36 Posted August 13, 2006 Report Share Posted August 13, 2006 Maynard James Keenan was shot by a lunatic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanAm Posted August 14, 2006 Report Share Posted August 14, 2006 Diggs makes some good points. American foreign policy has often been ill-conceived, inconsistent and heavy handed. However, I think it is simplistic to suggest that the rise of Islamic fundamentalism is largely the result of American and British foreign policy. The Islamic fundamentalists, fanatics, terrorists, call them what you will, are angry, hateful people. They believe that anyone who doesn't share their narrow-minded, intolerant and rigid beliefs is an enemy who deserves to be killed. Just look at what they have done in the Sudan, India and the Philippines. Western foreign policy has merely provided a new target for their rage and xenophobia. They hate what we have achieved and our entire way of life. They will do anything to undermine that way of life. Unfortunately, these radical beliefs cannot flourish in a vacuum. Many Muslim communities have tacitly or, through indifference, allowed this cancer to grow in their midst. Western governments have failed miserably to engage the vast majority of moderate Muslims and seek their help in stamping out religious extremism. Western governments must try to work cooperatively with the more liberal Muslim states to stamp out terrorism. Heavy handed, big brother diplomacy will only foster more intolerance and exacerbate the problem. And for those who think that only the United States and Britain have much to fear from terrorists, I believe the attacks in Bali, Madrid and Egypt have demontrated the naivete of that notion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLizard Posted August 14, 2006 Report Share Posted August 14, 2006 ^Well said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edna Posted August 15, 2006 Report Share Posted August 15, 2006 ^^ Yes. Exactly my thoughts too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiggsUK Posted August 15, 2006 Report Share Posted August 15, 2006 Its not just as a result of the existence of the US and Britain that the situation exists. I hope I didn't infer that. A large reason for it all however is that much of the 'western' influence so despised by the terrorists and their masters flow from the English speaking world... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steel2Velvet Posted August 15, 2006 Report Share Posted August 15, 2006 Well, who is to be blamed if sandals, one-sheet headcovers and living as if in the 13th century have difficulty catching on globally? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiggsUK Posted August 20, 2006 Report Share Posted August 20, 2006 You choose to miss my point with aplomb and I think aplomb should always be applauded! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawna Posted August 21, 2006 Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 what exactly is a "plomb"? Is it anything like a "lert"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiggsUK Posted August 21, 2006 Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 It is like a lert if the lert is tied to a piece of string... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Joe Posted August 21, 2006 Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 But isn't that then a plomb bob? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcM Posted August 21, 2006 Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 I would rather have a plomb bob than a plomb bomb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiggsUK Posted August 21, 2006 Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 Is that because a plomb bomb is for the easily lead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcM Posted August 21, 2006 Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 Mostly because it is messy. Nothing worse than blown confidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawna Posted August 21, 2006 Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 Yeah. I hate blowing things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daslied Posted August 21, 2006 Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 ...and Shawna takes it home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenacious_Peaches Posted August 21, 2006 Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 Shawna! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawna Posted August 21, 2006 Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 up... UP. I hate blowing things UP. Yeah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiggsUK Posted August 21, 2006 Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 The tone of this thread is getting increasingly hard to swallow... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcM Posted August 21, 2006 Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 And you promised you wouldn't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PSYCHOcatholic Posted August 22, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2006 Come on guys! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawna Posted August 22, 2006 Report Share Posted August 22, 2006 Hey Psycho! Did you ever tell us how your surgery went? If you did I missed it. How'd it go? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PSYCHOcatholic Posted August 22, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2006 It went great, my shoulder is in constant pain which is soemthing i expected, but last night i was getting changed an di tripped and fell into my bed on my shoulder...my bad one. So today im just gonna try to take it easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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