Did George Bush order the assasination of John Lennon?

[PaulEdwardWagemann 0]

George herbert walker Bush, who was head of the CIA in the 70s. Sean Lennon among others think the CIA killed John Lennon. Here's a little something that sets the mind to wonder:

http://www.john-lennon.net/whoauthorizedtheassassinationofjohnlennon.htm

[Steel2Velvet 0]

Think about this for a minute. For the CIA to involve themselves in an assassination attempt at any level, there must be TREMENDOUS political gain to be made from it in order to justify the risk of being uncovered during a botched attempt. It is not a capricious application of espionage to put something like that together. Someone is actually asserting that John Lennon's death would lead to political gain or enhanced national security? Perhaps deportation, but assassination? Hmmm .... think about it clearly for yourself.

[Uncle Joe 0]

Was there a grassy knoll, too?

[RonJonSurfer 15]

I think it was Yoko...

[Cheval Noir 0]

I don't trust those huge sunglasses...

[RonJonSurfer 15]

I think her shreiking was genuine....oh that was singing...nevermind...

[edna 6]

My mother is totally convinced that it was Yoko, she´s been telling me so since the shooting. And the record company was in the plot too.

[Tenacious_Peaches 0]

Perhaps W had a premonition and thought Lennon was hiding weapons of mass destruction.

[edna 6]

Perhaps W had a premonition and thought Lennon was hiding weapons of mass destruction.

[Uncle Joe 0]

You know, I've always wondered about "the day the music died".

And, did the late, great Johnny Ace actually shoot himself playing Russian roulette?

Wasn't John Denver an experienced pilot?

Allman? Van Zant? That guy from Chicago?

C'mon. Can't all be coincidences.

They're trying to kill rock I tell ya.

[MarcM 0]

That whole story sounds like Art Bell fodder....

[PaulEdwardWagemann 0]

http://www.mackwhite.com/lennon.html

· Lennon’s murder was never investigated by any legal authority. Despite his lawyers’ urging him to plead insanity, Mark David Chapman refused and pled guilty to murder.

No trial, no investigation.

· The only person to seriously investigate Chapman was British writer Fenton Bresler, who reported his findings in Who Killed John Lennon? (1989, St Martin’s Press, now out of print). Bresler died in 2003.

· Chapman abhorred violence, according to family and friends interviewed by Bresler. He was not a fan of Lennon or the Beatles.

· While a teenager in Decatur, Georgia, Chapman did a lot of LSD, then found Jesus, and devoted his life to working with the YMCA, which, according to Philip Agee (CIA Diary, 1975), was prime recruiting grounds for CIA stations in Latin America. Chapman’s YMCA employment records are missing.

· In June 1975, Chapman volunteered to work in the YMCA office in Beirut, Lebanon, as the civil war erupted.

· Returning to the U.S., Chapman was sent to work with newly-resettled Vietnamese refugees (and CIA assets) in Fort Chaffee, Arkansas, run by World Vision, an evangelical organization accused of CIA collaboration in Honduras and El Salvador.

· No one who knew Chapman in Hawaii, in the period before he killed Lennon, considered him psychotic, including mental health clinicians who were treating him for depression at a public clinic.

· Chapman would have been the ideal “programmed assassinâ€. Did the CIA have this capacity? If not, it was not for want of trying, as shown by former State Department officer John Marks in The Search for the Manchurian Candidate: the CIA and Mind Control (Norton, 1979).

[Uncle Joe 0]

If you believe that you have to also believe that they must have bungled the assassinations of the likes of Bob Dylan, the menbers of CSN&Y, Buffalo Springfield and any number of the thousands of artists whose work was deemed a threat to the government or its paranoid departments. C'mon.

It's so easy to bandy about theories that can never possibly be proven...nor disproven. It makes more sense to examine the proven facts. Maybe not as fascinating but certainly more reliable.

[edna 6]

Well, that guy was obsessed with John Lennon, I recall... he even married a Japanese woman or something like that, didn´t he?

[Uncle Joe 0]

Yes, she was his Yoko. He patterned himself after Lennon and tried to duplicate Lennon. The shrinks believe he may have decided that he could never BE Lennon until the real Lennon was gone. A pretty sound theory.

[PaulEdwardWagemann 0]

Project ARTICHOKE was a CIA project that researched interrogation methods and arose from project BLUEBIRD in 1951 August 20.The project studied hypnosis, forced opiate addiction (and subsequent forced withdrawal), and the use of other chemicals, among other methods, to produce amnesia and other vulnerable states in subjects. Magician John Mullholland consulted for the project. A memorandum by Richard Helms to director Allen Welsh Dulles indicated it became project MKULTRA in 1953 April 20. It was an offensive programme of mind control that gathered together the intelligence divisions of the Army, Navy, Air Force, and FBI. In addition, the scope of the project was outlined in a memo dated January 1952 that stated, "Can we get control of an individual to the point where he will do our bidding against his will and even against fundamental laws of nature, such as self preservation?"

This is how the CIA got Chapman to assasinate Lennon.

[rtstuff 0]

Project "Blue Book" investigated UFO sightings over a period of 2 decades. I think ET was a contributing author to that manuscript.

rtstuff

currently located in a parallel Universe where OLD 55 is a teenage rock star and Uncle Joe is starting shortstop with the Phillies.

[Uncle Joe 0]

Project ARTICHOKE was a CIA project that researched interrogation methods and arose from project BLUEBIRD in 1951 August 20.The project studied hypnosis, forced opiate addiction (and subsequent forced withdrawal), and the use of other chemicals, among other methods, to produce amnesia and other vulnerable states in subjects. Magician John Mullholland consulted for the project. A memorandum by Richard Helms to director Allen Welsh Dulles indicated it became project MKULTRA in 1953 April 20. It was an offensive programme of mind control that gathered together the intelligence divisions of the Army, Navy, Air Force, and FBI. In addition, the scope of the project was outlined in a memo dated January 1952 that stated, "Can we get control of an individual to the point where he will do our bidding against his will and even against fundamental laws of nature, such as self preservation?"

This is how the CIA got Chapman to assasinate Lennon.

So then, using your logic based upon the above I must conclude that my friend, Joe Roche didn't die as a result of wounds inflicted by the enemy in Viet Nam. It had to have been a covert operation by the CIA.

Amazing!

I'm beginning to doubt wheether my Mom died of cancer after all.

Those dirty bastards!

[edna 6]

This is how the CIA got Chapman to assasinate Lennon.

Did they train Charles Manson too?

[_Laurie_ 11]

Ahhhh yes, and Cat Stevens too?? dang...I knew something was behind all this madness.....

[edna 6]

I know Syd Vicious didn´t kill himslef... seems somebody prepared his last fix...

[MarcM 0]

The CIA killed John Belushi.

[edna 6]

And Elvis? My suspicious mind tells me it had something to do with Watergate.

See? The proof. He knew something...

[Farin 2]

Edna is absolutly right!

If you take a look at the stanza of "Jailhouse Rock":

The Warden threw A party in the counTy jail.

ThE prison band was theRe and they began to wail.

The band was jumpin' and the joint began to swinG.

You should've heArd Those knockEd out jailbirds sing.

Let's rock, everybody, let's rock.

Everybody in the whole cell block

was dancin' to the Jailhouse Rock.

If you take those letters, it clearly spells out "Watergate". Now that can't be a coincidence, right? Elvis knew about Watergate even back in 1957

[Shawna 1]

I think the plane crashes that killed Lynyrd Skynyrd band members, the one that killed Stevie Ray Vaughn, the one that killed Rick Nelson, and the one that killed the members of Reba McIntyre's band were all spearheaded by the CIA. And let's not forget Kurt Cobain's "supposed" suicide.

That's the ticket.