RonJonSurfer Posted March 9, 2005 Report Share Posted March 9, 2005 I consider JCS a rock masterpiece. Lyrics, music, musicians and vocals are all wonderful. They had a pretty good little story to work with too. Ian Gillan, Victor Brox, Murray Head, Mike D'Abo and Yvonne Elliman sing their heads out. All of those folks went on to critical (or had) critical acclaim in the rock world. Gillan from Deep Purple. Brox (See the story that follows), Murray "One Night In Bangkok" Head, Mike D'Abo of Manfred Mann and Yvonne Elliman who scored a hit from Superstar with "I Don't Know How To Love Him". There have been many recorded versions of JCS as well as countless theatre productions. I never get tired of the songs or the play. I would love to hear any storys, opinions, questions, etc. about Jesus Christ Superstar. Now a little about Victor Brox: British blues legend and pioneer Victor Brox has been described by Jimi Hendrix and Tina Turner as their favourite white blues singer and his list of collaborations reads like a who's who of the blues, rock and classic British popular music. He has played with legends such as Eric Clapton, Jimi Hendrix, Ritchie Blackmore and Ian Gillian (Deep Purple), Charlie Mingus, Noel Redding (Jimi Hendrix), Memphis Slim, Dr. John, Keith Moon (The Who), and studied under blues pioneers such as Big Bill Broonzy, Bo Diddley, Brownie McGhee, Sonny Boy Williamson, Little Walter and Screaming Jay Hawkins. Other internationally acclaimed artist Victor has worked with include Alexis Korner, Ainsley Dunbar, Bill Coleman, Lord David Sutch, Tete Montelieu, T.T.Swanston, Marzetta Watts and Nico. Brox has also appeared and performed in the Tim Rice & Andrew Lloyd Webber original "Jesus Christ, Superstar" with Deep Purple (click here for more info) and one of his Ainsley Dunbar Retaliation albums was produced by fellow pioneer John Mayall. "Victor Brox is one of Britain's greatest ever blues vocalists ranking alongside the likes of Chris Youlden, Joe Cocker and Steve Marriot at their best. This has been endorsed by Jimi Hendrix who was a great fan of Victor jamming and playing with him and the Ainsley Dunbar Retaliation on many occasions." Barrel House Blues Club (UK) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenacious_Peaches Posted March 9, 2005 Report Share Posted March 9, 2005 RonJon, that is strange that you mention JCS. When I asked about the Band, I was told to get the Last Waltz. I went to my video store to rent it and it wasn't there. While I was there in the music section I saw JCS and almost rented it. Now you have inspired me to watch it...I'll let you know what I think about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Joe Posted March 9, 2005 Report Share Posted March 9, 2005 That's a good idea, Peaches. Keep in mind that the movie version is not comparable to the original album/play..IMO. I actually didn't care much for the movie. I'd recommend listening to the original rock opera with the cast listed above by RonJon. Awesome! I loved Brox as Caiaphus (sp?). Your timing couldn't be better. This may sound odd coming from an atheist (who believes in Jesus) but every year on Good Friday I listen to the entire opera. It's been a tradition since the 70's. "Don't you get me wrong. I only want to know." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonJonSurfer Posted March 9, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 9, 2005 That's a good idea, Peaches. Keep in mind that the movie version is not comparable to the original album/play..IMO. I actually didn't care much for the movie. I'd recommend listening to the original rock opera with the cast listed above by RonJon. Awesome! I loved Brox as Caiaphus (sp?). Your timing couldn't be better. This may sound odd coming from an atheist (who believes in Jesus) but every year on Good Friday I listen to the entire opera. It's been a tradition since the 70's. "Don't you get me wrong. I only want to know." I do the exact same thing. It has been a tradition for me to listen on Good Friday every year. I also do all the lead vocals including Yvonne Elliman's!!! The movie is not to be compared with the original recording. The difference is night and day. There are threads on Songfacts about religion, controversial recordings, rock operas, movie themes, etc. JCS could fit almost anywhere. I think Andrew Lloyd Webber and Tim Rice hit a homerun right out of the box with Superstar. I have a friend who is fanatical about JCS. He finds and collects different versions that have been recorded. He shares them with me and many are fine. But I think the original is a classic rock effort for the ages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Joe Posted March 9, 2005 Report Share Posted March 9, 2005 Home run indeed! A grand-slam. Have you ever heard the their original cast recording of JOSEPH AND THE AMAZING TECHNICOLOR DREAMCOAT? It too is awesome, though not many know of it. And most that do, know only of the Donny Osmond version (which isn't all that bad). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonJonSurfer Posted March 9, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 9, 2005 Yep, that is pretty good too. Actually, so was Godspell. Not Webber/Rice, but the theme is consistent. I'd be remiss not to mention Hair at this point too. Hair, undoubtedly, spawned the most hit songs from this group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aunt_Acid Posted March 9, 2005 Report Share Posted March 9, 2005 I started a thread about this a long time ago. I love JCS. When I'm in a band, I want to do an adaption of it on stage. Like perform the music and acting at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonJonSurfer Posted March 9, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 9, 2005 JCS is still very popular based on the number of new productions every year. I've often thought it would be great to see and hear a rock band play it from start to finish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aunt_Acid Posted March 9, 2005 Report Share Posted March 9, 2005 Well then wait no longer. Except about 10 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katie_sane Posted March 10, 2005 Report Share Posted March 10, 2005 I have seen a movie version which must of been made in the 70's. In it they are driving around the desert in a Kombi van and they are all dressed as hippies. They used to make us watch this every easter at school. Also, when I was in kindergarten we sang a song out of this for a paraliturgy. It was that Hosanna one. I remember that everyone loved singing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonJonSurfer Posted March 10, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2005 I have seen a movie version which must of been made in the 70's. In it they are driving around the desert in a Kombi van and they are all dressed as hippies. They used to make us watch this every easter at school. Also, when I was in kindergarten we sang a song out of this for a paraliturgy. It was that Hosanna one. I remember that everyone loved singing it. This one?? (Crowd) Hosanna Heysanna Sanna Sanna Ho Sanna Hey Sanna Ho Sanna Hey J C, J C won't you smile at me? Sanna Ho Sanna Hey Superstar (Caiaphas) Tell the rabble to be quiet We anticipate a riot This common crowd Is much too loud Tell the mob who sing your song That they are fools and they are wrong They are a curse They should disperse (Crowd) Hosanna Heysanna Sanna Sanna Ho Sanna Hey Sanna Ho Sanna Hey J C, J C you're alright by me Sanna Ho Sanna Hey Superstar (Jesus) Why waste your breath moaning at the crowd? Nothing can be done to stop the shouting If ev'ry tongue was still the noise would still continue The rocks and stones themselves would start to sing: (Crowd, with Jesus) Hosanna Heysanna Sanna Sanna Ho Sanna Hey Sanna Ho Sanna Hey J C, J C won't you fight for me? Sanna Ho Sanna Hey Superstar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edna Posted March 10, 2005 Report Share Posted March 10, 2005 I was in high school when they did JCS and it seemed to me and friends so straight! Some years later my little sister gave me the record and I discovered it´s great... mainly the "I don´t know how to love him" song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katie_sane Posted March 10, 2005 Report Share Posted March 10, 2005 That's the one RonJon. What's the title? I like 'I Don't Know How To Love Him' too Edna. What's the other one Mary Magdalene sings? Is it called 'Everything's Alright'??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonJonSurfer Posted March 10, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2005 That's the one RonJon. What's the title? I like 'I Don't Know How To Love Him' too Edna. What's the other one Mary Magdalene sings? Is it called 'Everything's Alright'??? It's just called "Hosanna" and the Mary Magdalene songs are "I Don't Know How To Love Him" and "Everything's Alright". By the way, when Judas breaks out into a pained version of "I Don't Know How To Love Him" it is really chilling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edna Posted March 10, 2005 Report Share Posted March 10, 2005 I saw the movie too and though the original music is the good one, the movie is funny... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aunt_Acid Posted March 10, 2005 Report Share Posted March 10, 2005 I'm not sure which version chills you. I've heard mixed versions of the 1970s, 2000, Broadway, and London productions. The 2000 movie is realy good, I reccomend it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PSYCHOcatholic Posted March 11, 2005 Report Share Posted March 11, 2005 Older Version filmed in Jerusalem is way better. A good friend of mine just played Judas in it. I like Jesus Christ Superstar cause it centers around Judas. Judas gets top billing i believe on Broadway for this play. Im one of those guys that have memorized every word of every song from JCS. My Favorite song from it is probably King Herods Song. The guy who played Herod (name slipped mind) Well...hes the only guy to have ever really made it in movies and tv. Remember the principal from Billy Madison?? That was him. Must Die Must Die this Jesus must Die. Jesus Must Jesus Must Jesus Must DIIIIIIIIIE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aunt_Acid Posted March 11, 2005 Report Share Posted March 11, 2005 The 2000 one kicks the old one's ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PSYCHOcatholic Posted March 11, 2005 Report Share Posted March 11, 2005 hell no...classic beats anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonJonSurfer Posted March 11, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2005 I saw the Broadway production in the 70's and it was totally amazing....I thought it was better than any of the films. Judas' role is the starring role and, of course, he gets to sing "Superstar"..that caps it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrampledUnderFoot Posted March 11, 2005 Report Share Posted March 11, 2005 Have you ever heard the their original cast recording of JOSEPH AND THE AMAZING TECHNICOLOR DREAMCOAT? It too is awesome, though not many know of it. And most that do, know only of the Donny Osmond version (which isn't all that bad). I love the Donny Osmond version! I have it on tape and I think it's just awesome. I've loved it for as long as I can remember. When I was younger I used to have every song memorized. Jacob! Jacob and sons! Hahahaha, the only religious story I enjoy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Kat WQAQ98.1 Posted March 12, 2005 Report Share Posted March 12, 2005 Although you have to admit that "Herod's Song" is just plain fun. This is by far my most favorite muscial of all time. I have both the original cast soundtrack, the movie soundtrack and the movie on VHS, in addition to the sheet music book for piano. It's become tradition to only play that during Holy Week if we're on the piano. I would love to see this live on stage. I was going to go when it was revived on Broadway a few years ago, but the timing didn't work out. Hopefully I'll catch one of the many touring groups that are going around these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Kat WQAQ98.1 Posted March 12, 2005 Report Share Posted March 12, 2005 The guy who played Herod (name slipped mind) Well...hes the only guy to have ever really made it in movies and tv. Remember the principal from Billy Madison?? That was him. I didn't believe you so I had to look it up on IMDB. But damn, you were right. He's also Zero Mostel's son, werd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonJonSurfer Posted March 12, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2005 Although you have to admit that "Herod's Song" is just plain fun. This is by far my most favorite muscial of all time. I have both the original cast soundtrack, the movie soundtrack and the movie on VHS, in addition to the sheet music book for piano. It's become tradition to only play that during Holy Week if we're on the piano. I would love to see this live on stage. I was going to go when it was revived on Broadway a few years ago, but the timing didn't work out. Hopefully I'll catch one of the many touring groups that are going around these days. The songs work in any level of production. go see it, even if it's the local high school version. Then again, it's probably banned in highschools because of the religious aspects. go see a local theatre group then, you'll love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edna Posted March 12, 2005 Report Share Posted March 12, 2005 It´s funny because I came to Spain soon after it was released and I thought it would be censored, but no... seems they didn´t even understand the words! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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