azler Posted March 8, 2005 Report Share Posted March 8, 2005 does ne1 know of any really good trip hop/ acid jazz songs. ive just started listenin 2 the genre and want 2 find sum really good songs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earth-Angel Posted March 8, 2005 Report Share Posted March 8, 2005 You might enjoy the sounds of Quantic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invisible_r Posted March 8, 2005 Report Share Posted March 8, 2005 portishead (my fave) massive attack tricky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Earth-Angel Posted March 8, 2005 Report Share Posted March 8, 2005 Portishead If you can get your paws on some North African/Arabic trip hop Morcheeba Leftfield Goldfrapp You might be able to squeeze in some slighty more poppy Acid Jazz in the form of Jamiroquai Good trip hop music site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invisible_r Posted March 8, 2005 Report Share Posted March 8, 2005 north african/arabic triphop? examples? im interested! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Addictedtoclassic Posted March 8, 2005 Report Share Posted March 8, 2005 What the heck is trip hop and what constitutes acid jazz? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earth-Angel Posted March 8, 2005 Report Share Posted March 8, 2005 I bought a real bargain of a CD called Arabica III - Voyages into North African sound. It's one of the best CDs I own! It features traditional sounds and voices in a cool trippy studio blend. They're mixed by a French dj Francis Peyrat and more info can be found at www.bardelune.com You can hear some clips on this site and also see what others who bought the album recommend Here are some other interesting jazz singles. What is "Acid Jazz"? Acid Jazz really has nothing to do with Acid music (originally)- it was a tongue in cheek spinoff of the Acid House phenomenon happening in the UK at the time. The underground dance club scene (The Fez, The Centre of the World, etc) provided an ambiance for "Massives" of DJ's and musicians to get together and jam, spinning off from the original reggae sounds (and sound systems) of the 70s to other forms of black music (as opposed to non-black music movements like techno and house, which started at almost the same time). Soul II Soul was an early example of this, but they went in a slightly different direction than the acid jazz bands that followed. The most prevalent musical trend was the revival of the 70s American funk, which became very popular in Britain in the late eighties. There were the early (88? 89?) Talkin Loud and Saying Someting parties which were the basis for the first couple of Totally Wired compilations, which was Acid Jazz's (the label) jumping off point. The first Acid Jazz single, Galliano's "Fredrick Lies Still" was an almost tongue in cheek cover of Curtis Mayfield's "Freddie's Dead," from the film Superfly. A big supporter/ promoter of acid jazz was Gilles Peterson, who was a dj at KISS FM. He was purportedly one of the founders of the Acid Jazz record label, then went on to start Talkin Loud. The legends about how the name came about: On one of the BGP Acid Jazz compilations the sleeve notes referred to Gilles Peterson jokingly giving James Taylor a cassette of Funk Inc. and Charlie Earland Grooves labelled simply "Acid Jazz" in order to inspire him. Gilles Peterson claimed on radio to have coined the phrase acid jazz when he was asked to dj after an acid house dj. He said that the crowd was going mental to this house music and he wasn't sure how he could follow it up. He put on things like Jonny Pate's 'You're starting too fast,' Weldone Irvine and Charles Earland etc., and the crowd kept dancing. But then Gilles probably would say that he invented it. Then, while the Young Disciples were in California last summer, they claimed that they gigged at this club where they had a massive acid house thing going on downstairs, and a small room upstairs where the YDs were supposed to play "jazz." So Femi (or was it Marc?) called it "Acid Jazz" to attract people upstairs. It is likely that many of these stories regarding the origin of the term are apocryphal, and it should be noted at the time the so called Acid Jazz thing hit, in the late eighties, alot of DJs who'd been playing this sort of stuff already were pretty pissed off with the tag "Acid Jazz", and the widely held assumption that Gilles Peterson deserved sole credit for the resurrection of this form of music since he'd supposedley coined the term. Finally, Chris Phillips or Jez Nelson interviewed some New York soul band last year, on a London radio station. The band said they might get into this new acid jazz thing. At the end of the programme, one of the DJs scoffed, saying "Acid Jazz was something Giles Peterson invented five years ago that some other people got involved in. It is over now." Perhaps the moral of the story is not to invent these tags, it is bad enough with Soul Jazz, Soul Funk, Jazz Funk, Funk/Jazz etc already. Now, of course, music does not evolve in a vacuum, and there were several things happening in the U.S. Americans usually claim the first mingling of rap and jazz, and could even claim dibs on "acid jazz," because what we know today as "Acid Jazz" is usually reworked American 70's stuff. Some give credit to Miles Davis' _Doo Bop_ album (1992) for being the first in that category. Also, _On the Corner_ (1972) was a bold leap into funky jazz. Ganstarr's "Jazz Thing," (for Spike Lee's "Mo' Bettah Blues") did come before Miles' "Doo Bop" unless you are questioning whether it's "real" jazz they are rapping over. Branford Marsalis played sax on Public Enemy's Fight The Power in 1990. Ron Carter played bass for A Tribe Called Quest's Low End Theory in 1991. In 88, Stetsasonic did two versions of Talkin' All Jazz, first sampling Lonnie Liston Smith, then remixing with a Donald Byrd track. In 86, Run-DMC flipped a Bob James song into the hip hop classic Peter Piper. (The dates come from record sleeves. They don't always correspond to when the songs were actually created.) Incidentally, 1988 is also the year that Gang Starr dropped their monster "Words I Manifest" single (sampling Charlie Parker doing a Dizzy Gillespie tune) and subsequent "No More Mr. Nice Guy" album on Wild Pitch. Their LP track "Jazz Music" initiated and predates "Jazz Thing" and even any of Tribe's recorded efforts. However, crediting Gang Starr with the first Hip Hop Jazz *Album* is slightly unfair on Galliano, whose earlier projects came sometime before. To go much further back, probably the first real rappers, after Max Bygraves, were the Last Poets. Some of their material could be described as Jazz Hip Hop in the loosest sense of the word, which is appropriate considering perhaps the seminal Jazz Hip Hop track - Gangstarr's "Jazz Thing" is simply rapping over a Brandford Marsalis Horn, and the latter simply playing over a loop of Kool and the Gang's "Dujii", and you'd have a hard time convincing any Jazz buff that Kool Jazz was actually jazz. So that's how it goes. Of course, now people have started sampling jazz with techno music (The House of Acid Jazz is a good example) and people have used samples *and* used real musicians (eg US3). Once people started recognizing that some of the "jazz" from the 60's and 70's was funky like that, they started to call it acid jazz as well. So now it has encompassed a huge variety of music. An important thing here is to recognize and acknowledge the contributions from everywhere. The UK was the first to revinvent funk with jazz (in the US, the jazz had slowly been dropped from the funk ala Prince, Parliment, etc). The US was concentrating more on getting musically serious with it's rap forms, but until full length jazz-rap albums like Guru's came out, the emphasis was mainly on single songs or single samples. However, this list is more geared towards the funkified jazz sounds of the original acid-jazz movement than the jazz-rap community, but discussions of the latter are not necessarily out of place. :-) Examples of Acid Jazz artists? Definitely Acid Jazz (in *no* order) * James Taylor Quartet * Night Trains * United Future Organization * Brand New Heavies * Young Disciples * DJ Takemura * DJ KRUSH * Jamiroquai * Ronny Jordan * Incognito * D-Influence * Corduroy * New Jersey Kings * Mother Earth * Snowboy * Jazzhole Very close (ambiguous- rap? soul? house?) * Solsonics * Galliano * Massive Attack * Soul II Soul * MC Solaar * Alphabet Soup * Greyboy * Sandals * Jhelisa * Greyboy Allstars * Quiet Boys * Angel * US3 * Omar * Kyoto Jazz Massive * Massive Attack * Urban Species * MC Mello * Stereo MCs * Lalome Washburn The "Old School" Originals * Herbie Hancock * Ivan Boogaloo Jones * Pucho * Grant Green * Funk, Inc. * Miles Davis * Roy Ayers * Lou Donaldson * John Coltrane * Cal Tjader * Donald Byrd * Chico Hamilton Honorable mention ("jazzy" influence, or straight up jazzy) * Digable Planets * A Tribe Called Quest * Guru * Gang Starr * Level 42 * Swing Out Sister * Lisa Stansfield * Yo-yo Honey * Innocence * Charlie Hunter Trio * Courtney Pine * Manu Dibango * Paul Weller * Buckshot Lafonque Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Addictedtoclassic Posted March 8, 2005 Report Share Posted March 8, 2005 Thank you Suzy. So it's kind of like combining Parliament with Snoop Dogg? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invisible_r Posted March 8, 2005 Report Share Posted March 8, 2005 i think trip hop refers to the beat in the background, right sue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earth-Angel Posted March 8, 2005 Report Share Posted March 8, 2005 Not quite Aaron More sexy, funky, dancey, grindy, jazzy, awesome sounds, perfect for dancing and chilling. From www.triphop-music.com 1. What is triphop? 1a. This is by far the most commonly asked question, and the most difficult to answer, but I will try my best to sum it up. Triphop is a blend of electronica and hip-hop, urban and ethereal, street and ambience. It is music that is thought provoking, sexy, sensual, and deep. Defining triphop is so difficult because the music is so amorphous, and it spreads across such a wide range of emotions and sounds. Some groups will have you nodding your head and tapping your feet while others will possibly lower your blood pressure (joke, sorta;). 1b. Some triphop is narcotic - extremely mellow strings, a gentle brush beat on the drums, spacey bass lines echoing in the background with sullen female vocals at a whispers volume. Some triphop is loud - in your face with turntables burning themselves up, bass driven hip hop beats, thumping bass lines and rapping. A good deal of what is between these 2 examples would classify as triphop. That is indeed a big pill to swallow, so I will now attempt to describe triphop from a different point, the mood and messages evoked. 1c. While it would not be correct to assume that all triphop lyrics focus on anything in particular, a good deal of groups express sentiments on love, the loss of love, relationships in general, life in general, city life, escapism, etc. Not all, but a good deal of groups also approach these topics from a somber or regretful standpoint. This isn't to say that all triphop is for heartbroken souls who want to stay couped up in a studio apartment, chainsmoking and drinking all night because they are now damaged. There is triphop which deals with the good things in life as well: good times in life, worthy experiences, the pleasure of a certain herb, etc... but just about every triphop album out there will have at least a song or two that will focus on the downfalls of love. It seems to be quite a universal theme within this music. Hopefully this is starting to shape up into something that can actually be grasped. 1d. While these are all my personal perceptions of the genre, being a diehard devotee to the blissful beats of triphop going on eight years now, I think it would be wise to add some comments of others who have something to say on this subject. "Triphop is smooth beats, moods, emotions... Engeneered music, not trance or techno though (yaaark..) It' wavy music, it takes you through those waves, i love it, its some kind of relaxing music that helps you think. I feel it like city music, night music, thoughful music." "imo...i say what hip hop is to rap...triphop is to dance.... its just toned down more. basically a slow electronic sound usually accompanied with female vocal. just great music to chill to." "i think the simplest consensus could be its laid back&relaxing electronics/synths accompanied by a beautiful female (for the most part) voice. usually one might think some dark but w/ bands like Morcheeba...can be refreshing too ahhhhh. i'm thinking of "sao paulo".." "To me Triphop or downbeat or whatever your linguistic choice is, is not affronting or accosting, but enveloping and open. It is Like all other music in that it creates a mood and emotion in the listener. For Me Rap and lots of rock and heavy metal type stuff tend to incite a certain primality, rage and rawness. MTV pop tends to evoke symptoms of happiness (fake happiness in my mind) although often it seems to be a hollow happiness. Triphop evokes a melancholy, contemplative feel inside of me (by the way most people that I know that like triphop tend to have a sad tint on life, not depressive or negative, just feel pain a little stronger). The picture on the front of the actual CD of Goldfrapp's album best personifies Triphop to me. An unassuming set of trees in the forest, blanketed in soft white snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Addictedtoclassic Posted March 8, 2005 Report Share Posted March 8, 2005 That's kind of what Parliament is like... but I'm guessing you mean a little more electronica then Parliament? Interesting... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed24345 Posted July 1, 2005 Report Share Posted July 1, 2005 Acid Jazz- Fishbelly Black US3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Posted July 2, 2005 Report Share Posted July 2, 2005 If you're going to own just one song in this genre, it should be "Safe From Harm" by Massive Attack. I like the US3 recommendation. They have some good stuff. Something else you might want to check out is Action Figure Party. Very accessible Jazz, complete with a Lennon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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