Brett Posted February 18, 2011 Report Share Posted February 18, 2011 OK all you Rocky IV soundtrack fans: 1. Who were the members of Touch, credited with performing the song Sweetest Victory on the soundtrack? [NOTE: Marq Torien (same guy from the Bullet Boys perhaps?) is credited with performing the song in the film's end credits...NOT Touch]. 2. Who has a correct and complete set of lyrics for this song? I am only missing one line in the song and what's out there on every single lyric web site is incorrect for one or more of the lines in the song. I've contacted Marq and Jake Hooker (producer) but neither will respond (imagine that!), only adding to the mystery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Posted February 19, 2011 Report Share Posted February 19, 2011 Brett- It looks like Duane Hitchings wrote that song with Jake Hooker. A while ago, Duane told us about writing Young Turks, so we can ask him about Sweetest Victory if you'd like (can't promise a response). Can you tell us the specific lyric you're missing and if there's anything else you'd like to know about the song? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brett Posted February 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 Carl, Thanks for the offer! Here's what I've deciphered after many, many listens to the song (not saying I'm 100% correct, but should be pretty close). The missing line in ?'s is what I'm after, but will certainly take any other corrections Duane or anyone else here can provide. Sweetest Victory The deepest cut that can be healed By the gun or by the sword It’s hoped that you can turn yourself ?? The cold sweat sticks to your heart Your mouth gets drier and drier The battle inside wages on Your pulse races higher and higher Chorus: The sweetest victory I love you more than life itself The sweetest victory You give me strength to know myself Oh sweet victory My soul is yours and the glory is mine The sweetest victory The bright-light stars will always shine The truth, like nails, rip me up I can make it disappear Time to forget has passed me by There’s no place to hide my fear Hate and pain fill me up Every minute takes longer and longer A bead of sweat costs drops of blood Make me stronger and stronger Chorus The cold sweat sticks to your heart Your mouth gets drier and drier The battle inside wages on Your pulse races higher and higher Wooh, wooh, I love you more than life itself Yeah, yeah, yeah You give me strength to know myself The sweetest victory My soul is yours The glory is mine The sweetest victory The bright-light stars will always shine The sweetest victory Yeah, I love you more than life itself The sweetest victory You give me strength to know myself Oh sweet victory My soul is yours The glory is mine The sweetest victory The bright-light stars will always shine The sweetest victory Will always shine The sweetest victory aaah, aaah, aaah The sweetest victory I know Stallone hired Touch for the song, but really would like to know more about them (i.e., a one-hit wonder?, a studio band for this song only?, members?, etc.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Posted February 22, 2011 Report Share Posted February 22, 2011 OK, just sent the email. I'll let you know how it goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brett Posted February 23, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 OK, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starzarising Posted April 28, 2011 Report Share Posted April 28, 2011 Correction.... The sweetest victory The bars n stars will always shine Bars n Stars; meaning the American Flag. He was fighting the Drago from USSR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brett Posted May 2, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 2, 2011 Well that certainly makes more sense! I'll give it a try. One down and one to go. Still no word from Mr. Hitchings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edna Posted May 3, 2011 Report Share Posted May 3, 2011 I googled and found many sites where you can find those lyrics... Here's the line missing, according to one of those sites: Deepest cut that can be healed By the gun...or by the sword: It's hope that you can turn yourself Outside at the end of the war The cold sweat sticks...to your heart. full lyrics. Touch - The Sweetest Victory Deepest cut that can be healed By the gun...or by the sword: It's hope that you can turn yourself Outside at the end of the war The cold sweat sticks...to your heart. Your mouth gets drier and drier. The battle inside rages on. Your pulse races higher and higher. CHORUS Sweetest victory; I love you more than life itself. Sweetest victory; you give me strength to know myself. Oh, sweet victory; my soul is yours and the glory is mine. Sweetest victory; the far-off stars will always shine. The toothlike nails rip me up. I can make it disappear. Time to forget has passed me by. There's no place to hide my fear. Hate and pain filled me up. Every minute takes longer and longer. I bead of sweat 'cause drops of blood Makes me stronger and stronger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brett Posted May 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 5, 2011 Yes, I've also seen those lyrics, but not sure of that missing line still...gotta listen some more. The line below in red makes no sense; mine sounds better. I googled and found many sites where you can find those lyrics... Here's the line missing, according to one of those sites: Deepest cut that can be healed By the gun...or by the sword: It's hope that you can turn yourself Outside at the end of the war The cold sweat sticks...to your heart. full lyrics. Touch - The Sweetest Victory Deepest cut that can be healed By the gun...or by the sword: It's hope that you can turn yourself Outside at the end of the war The cold sweat sticks...to your heart. Your mouth gets drier and drier. The battle inside rages on. Your pulse races higher and higher. CHORUS Sweetest victory; I love you more than life itself. Sweetest victory; you give me strength to know myself. Oh, sweet victory; my soul is yours and the glory is mine. Sweetest victory; the far-off stars will always shine. The toothlike nails rip me up. I can make it disappear. Time to forget has passed me by. There's no place to hide my fear. Hate and pain filled me up. Every minute takes longer and longer. I bead of sweat 'cause drops of bloodMakes me stronger and stronger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edna Posted May 5, 2011 Report Share Posted May 5, 2011 If you google it, you can find other sites with the lyrics... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edna Posted May 6, 2011 Report Share Posted May 6, 2011 According to another site, the last two lines go: I bead of sweat 'cause drops of blood Makes me stronger and stronger. As for the rest of the lyrics, just google and you'll find ten, twenty or more sites witht them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brett Posted May 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 6, 2011 According to another site, the last two lines go: I bead of sweat 'cause drops of blood As for the rest of the lyrics, just google and you'll find ten, twenty or more sites witht them... ...and that part in red makes sense to you?! If so, please explain...it's not even a legitimate sentence. That's exactly why I don't put much confidence in all of those lyrics sites; they are usually wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edna Posted May 6, 2011 Report Share Posted May 6, 2011 Well, I guess it might be "I (drop) bead (s) of sweat 'cause drops of blood make me stronger..." in a poetic way, like he's sweating blood cause blood makes him stronger. As if he was sweating blood instead of sweat... I can't explain what that line exactly means but there are many lines in rock which don't make that much sense so far... ...besides, English is actually my fourth language (I am French and spoke Spanish all my life, and we speak Russian at home...) so I might be missing the point too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad_M Posted May 6, 2011 Report Share Posted May 6, 2011 I bead of sweat 'cause drops of blood ...it's not even a legitimate sentence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawna Posted May 7, 2011 Report Share Posted May 7, 2011 Okay, gang, I just listened to the Youtube of this song, and the line in question sounds like it could actually be: "I bleed of sweat, 'cause drops of blood make me stronger and stronger." Which makes sense. OR "A bead of sweat cause drops of blood" (the sweat is the cause of the blood) which also makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edna Posted May 7, 2011 Report Share Posted May 7, 2011 ...looks like we all agree... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brett Posted May 9, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 9, 2011 I still hear it as: A bead of sweat costs drops of blood Make(s) me stronger and stronger Oh well, I guess unless/until we ever hear back from someone "in the know" it shall remain a mystery. Anyone care to dig into the mystery of "Touch", the group that sang it? And why is Marq Torien (of the Bulletboys) credited with the song in the end credits of the movie rather than "Touch"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brett Posted August 23, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2011 BUMP No one knows anything about the group TOUCH? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edna Posted August 23, 2011 Report Share Posted August 23, 2011 (edited) Wikipedia says http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Touch_%28band%29 and they don't even mention the song. Edited August 23, 2011 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawna Posted August 24, 2011 Report Share Posted August 24, 2011 I know Stallone hired Touch for the song, but really would like to know more about them (i.e., a one-hit wonder?, a studio band for this song only?, members?, etc.) If you're sure of that information, then it's possible that Marq Torien sang the vocals for the movie, but the cut included on the soundtrack was performed by Touch. That happens quite a lot, in my experience (hearing a song while watching the movie, then buying the soundtrack and it'll be a different cut). This is a link to a Marq Torien interview. I didn't listen to it, but one of the comments someone left states that he did sing "The Sweetest Victory" live in the movie. The link that Edna gave for Wiki has some information on the band that includes nothing about Marq Torien, but he's evidently been around the block with the glam metal bands of the '80s, including playing for Ratt for 4 months at one point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhivko Posted October 27, 2011 Report Share Posted October 27, 2011 ...besides, English is actually my fourth language (I am French and spoke Spanish all my life, and we speak Russian at home...) so I might be missing the point too... That's nice How come you speak Russian @ home? Sorry for the off-topic but i got curious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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