Malakin

I gotta say, I'm surprised at the number of people voting for the Connells, I thought they were one of those bands that I listened to that just made people go "Who!?"

Yeah, I stopped reading after "I don't argue, I tell". I'm done with this thread. Ta.

How about Hassel the Hoff? Those Germans, they love David Hasselhoff.

I would likely fall into your definition of a music fan. I own well over 600 cd's, used to own and run a music store online, and managed several "brick and mortar" stores. I grew up in the 80's. I would be exactly the guy you were going for in your demographic of those who would "know Echo at least as well as the Doors", yes? I don't know that I could identify an Echo song to save my life. If I heard one I might think "oh, man, I remember this crap from the 80's" but I wouldn't know it was Echo. If I hear a Doors song on the radio, any Doors song, one I know or not, I immediately know it's the Doors. Why? Because first of all, I know most of their songs, and the ones I don't know, well, the Doors had a sound which was pretty identifiable. They carved their own niche in rock and roll history and lived there. There's a huge difference there if you ask me. A band that was making so-called hit songs in the generation that I grew up listening to the radio, compared to the one who were already broken up by the time I was a wee lad, and I know the one from before my time. I hate the feeling that we're all jumping on you like this, but honestly, you say these blanket statements about a certain type of people, and you say it to THOSE people, and when they say that your assumption about them is wrong, you argue and say that it's right. That'd be like me telling you that you prefer the color purple, and you saying "no, my favorite color is red, I don't even own anything purple" and me saying "yes, but if you were a real person you'd know that red is just a derivative of purple and you're just buying a different shade. You prefer purple, face it." (oh, and for the record, I own a few duran duran, depeche mode, and other new wave albums, so you can't just say that I'm "not a new wave fan")

1. Redemption Song - Bob Marley 2. '74 - '75 - The Connells 3. Big Log - Robert Plant 4. All I Want - Toad the Wet Sprocket 5. Hurdy Gurdy Man - Donovan 6. My Sweet Lord - George Harrison 7. All Along the Watchtower - Jimi Hendrix 8. Picking up the Pieces - Average White Band 9. Squeezebox - The Who 10. Better Man - Pearl Jam

Man.. Who could've seen that comin!?!?

You say you can poll New Wave Fans and ask them about how important Echo and the Bunnymen were... Okay, but you can poll just about -anybody- and ask them about the Doors. You don't have to poll Classic Rock fans, or people who like Robby Kreiger's haircut. Everybody knows the Doors. New Wave fans know Echo. That's the difference.

Robert Plant - Big Log Toad the Wet Sprocket - All I Want

That Def Leppard futuristic thing got by me when I read the list.. I have NO idea what the hell that one means, can't defend it. Only thing I can say is they have sold a boatload of albums compared to some of those others you named. Popularity by sales does indeed comprise enough reason to put someone on a "top 25" list, if that's all the criteria you're looking for.

This list has a pretty large basis in album sales and innovation. You may think Boston doesn't belong on that list, but their debut album is generally considered a turning point in the music industry. No one ever had a debut album that big before, and I mean that financially as well as sonically, they really pioneered arena rock anthems with that album. Rush has always been a good band, they're musically talented, they make lots of good music, but honestly, they've never achieved that status of being "huge" like these other bands. Garbage? Please, they've NEVER been that big. They're a radio staple when they have a single, but that's it. Heart? Heart were never pioneers of anything. They had a few good Zeppelin sounding singles in the 70's, and turned into pop "we sound like everyone else now" in the 80's, they don't belong on any list of this kind. The Pretenders, Blondie, Joan Jett, sure, they all sell lots of albums (or did once upon a time) but never with great consistency, they all had their moments to shine, but otherwise were flashes in the pan. Guns 'n Roses don't belong on that list either because of their own inconsistencies. The bands on this list all put out album after album of not only big selling albums, but also albums that were relevant to the time. Guns 'n Roses did that twice. Appetite and Use Your Illusion. Otherwise they put out dismal material, and were infamous for showing up hours and hours late to concerts, if they even showed, and generally made a mockery of their own careers. The only band mentioned to not be on there that I can agree with so far in this whole thread is Nirvana. I'm not a huge Nirvana fan, I have Nevermind, and I'm content with that, but it's hard to disagree with the impact they had on music in their short time together. You have to look at these lists with it in the back of your mind that these aren't necessarily the "greatest" bands, but that they are based on impressions garnered from album and single sales, stamina in the marketplace, influence on newer bands, that sort of thing. You can say that Led Zeppelin's overrated all you want, but you poll 100 rock bands today and ask them who their influences are, and I guarantee you that 99 of them say Led Zeppelin within 30 seconds. They changed so many things about how rock and roll music was recorded, performed, packaged... Their influence is undeniable. And now I've typed far too much and need to go read something else.

Wow.. so many to list... For starters, you have just got to listen to marillion. Don't believe me? Go to marillion.com and ask for a free sampler. it's that easy. As for others, there's Spock's Beard, Porcupine Tree, Transatlantic (very definitely check them out), IQ, Mike Hunter solo... Plenty of prog out there, you just have to look. Hope you find somethin you like!

You're blessed, Darryl, good people SHOULD have good things happen to them. It's good to see it happen now and again.

Dude, that's hot...

They've been playing the first single, with Lewis and Little Richard, on the local college radio station here. It's fantastic. I'm really looking forward to this album.

1. In My Time of Dying - Led Zeppelin 2. Scenes From An Italian Restaurant - Billy Joel 3. The Chain - Fleetwood Mac 4. Pride and Joy - SRV 5. Wonderwall - Oasis 6. Beds are Burning - Midnight Oil 7. Hawkmoon 269 - U2 8. Hurricane - Bob Dylan 9. Mother - Pink Floyd 10. Diamond Dogs - David Bowie

How very sad. Deepest sympathies to you and your family.

Man, I wish someone could explain to me what it is I'm missing with these Arctic Monkeys.. I've listened to them, I've pretty much hated it. What's the appeal that's turned them instantly into the biggest thing since sliced Spice Girls?

If it ain't Kate Beckinsale, it ain't.

Japanese pop is crap.

1. Black Dog - Led Zeppelin 2. Georgia On My Mind - Ray Charles 3. My Generation - The Who 4. Across the Universe - The Beatles 5. Red House - Jimi Hendrix 6. Space Oddity - David Bowie 7. Sultans of Swing - Dire Straits 8. Suspicious Minds - Elvis 9. Fortunate Son - CCR 10. Like A Rolling Stone - Bob Dylan

Actually, it wasn't till 92 or so that Nirvana really hit it, but I can see what you're saying, you were 3.. But then, most of my favorite music is from when I was around 3.. Just because you're from a certain generation doesn't define the music you listen to. I would start the whole debate over and say that "so-and-so are the whoever of this decade" rather than generation. But that's just me.

Mmmm.. wonderwall and beds are burning were my noms the first time around, so you'll most likely have my votes! Fleetwood Mac - The Chain Stevie Ray Vaughn - Pride and Joy

Mmm.. I've heard a bunch of it on the local college station here. I must admit, it is enjoyable, but come on.. He's Bob Dylan, if they didn't say that people wouldn't read the magazine. Nothing I've heard so far has been anywhere near Lay, Lady Lay, or the old classics.

Errr.. Radiohead are on tour at the moment, new album coming out relatively soon, Thom Yorke just put out his first solo album.. Why aren't Radiohead this generation's Radiohead? Isn't one of the things that makes a band great that they evolve? They re-invent themselves? New Radiohead does not sound like old Radiohead. They don't just keep putting out albums with the same songs with new lyrics. Weezer, I'm sorry, but I have to argue Weezer.. They make decent pop, sure, but it's still the same pop they were writing on their first album. They didn't actually GO anywhere. And Batman, if that type of indie turns ya on, you should honestly check out Marillion. They were pioneers in the development of how bands interact with their fans via the internet, and self-promotion, self-funded recording and distribution, etc. They even teach an economics course in England now at some university (don't remember which, read this a while ago) where they teach what they call "the marillion effect" based on how they influenced the record industry with their DYI approach.

Yeah, I honestly can't imagine how rainbow made it on there above almost all of the songs that didn't make the list other than blind devotion to the Rolling Stones.. And let's be honest, if you're going to be blindly devoted to a band, it should be the Beatles or Zeppelin, not the Stones.