RockyRaccoon

Draft went great, it was me and two other people. It was pretty quick.

Draft is in 20 minutes, we'll see if anyone aside from me will be there

Don't forget! Draft tonight at 8pm EST

I got it. We either need two more teams or leave it at 8 teams.

Click this link to join our league, draft is this Saturday at 8pm EST https://yho.com/nfl?l=1233604&k=a3d8f79e5752f249

Alright, how about this upcoming Saturday, August 30th, at 8pm EST?

I'll PM him. Would the Saturday evening of Labor Day weekend (next Saturday) work? Sometime around 8pm?

What day/time would work for most people for a draft?

Good movie, really dark, but good. Pretty typical for Bobcat Goldthwait

Yea, I get what you're saying.

In a way, yea. They're not on the radio as often for sure, outside of like Muse, Orianthi, Jack White and others.

edit: ignore

Not necessarily. You just have to find it

I'm still in, and would definitely prefer a live draft.

Good choice. For anyone wondering, here's my top 20 of the year so far: 1. Benji - Sun Kil Moon 2. Ether - Phil Beaudreau 3. Lost In The Dream - The War On Drugs 4. Cosmos - Yellow Ostrich 5. Nux Vomica - Nux Vomica 6. Nikki Nack - tUnE-yArDs 7. Familiars - The Antlers 8. Morning Phase - Beck 9. ...And Then You Shoot Your Cousin - The Roots 10. St. Vincent - St. Vincent 11. Cope - Manchester Orchestra 12. I Never Learn - Lykke Li 13. Post Tropical - James Vincent McMorrow 14. The Cautionary Tales Of Mark Oliver Everett - Eels 15. Blue Sunshine - U.S. Royalty 16. Eons - Mimicking Birds 17. Past Life - Lost In The Trees 18. The Alchemist - John Zorn 19. To Be Kind - Swans 20. Lazaretto - Jack White Also, an honorable mention coming in at #21 is Arcade Fire member Richard Reed Parry's neo-classical piece "Music For Heart And Breath". Go listen to these, it's worth it.

I will emphasize that the women are not always metaphors, it's just something that's done often. Rap, in it's most basic form (rather in it's initial form) reflected life from the perspective of these artists. That's where gangsta rap comes from, it details life, for better or worse, from the perspective of people who often lived it. Despite the fact that it popularized a certain culture that's often misogynistic, hyper-masculine and hyper-violent, it also brought a lot of awareness to the realities of life in the projects (in some cases). In the end, the person listening to it has to be able to discern the value from the music. Obviously when you listen Eminem, you shouldn't then think "Oh hey, I should totes go murder some people". But there's value in the music, there's art. Rap gets a bad reputation amongst some other people because currently, party music is popular, and thus, many find that music to be representative of the whole genre, which it isn't.

Of course the lyrics matter, but it's the context that matters too. I'll give the example of Eminem. His album, "The Marshall Mathers LP" I find to be an incredible work. His double persona of Slim Shady and Marshall Mathers is at full force. The album is incredibly disturbing, I mean, really disturbing, and after listening to it, I was affected by it, I was blown away. And even though I was disturbed by it, I recognized how powerful it was. Anyone can write lyrics that are vulgar and you can roll your eyes at them without even a second thought, but to be able to craft words that evoke such a strong emotional reaction as I had, that's powerful, that requires skill, and that's why I see that album as such a great album. There's also a trend in hip-hop to use a "woman" as a metaphor, or rather a stand-in, for the genre of hip-hop itself. Not everyone does that, but some do. Sure, there are rappers out there who put out junk for junk's sake, and of course that's meaningless, but that doesn't mean rap is worthless, never judge the whole by only a few parts. There's a lot of rap out there that is meaningful, that's introspective and powerful, a lot of it has been released within the past ten years, you just have to find it.

1. I'll Never Let You Go – Steelheart (1990) 2. You Ain't Goin' Nowhere – The Nitty Gritty Dirt Band (1989) 3. You're All I've Got Tonight – The Cars (1978) 4. Down To The Waterline – Dire Straits (1978) 5. If You Want My Love – Cheap Trick (1982) 6. Need Your Loving Tonight – Queen (1980) 7. You Baby – The Turtles (1966) 8. Your Love is Driving Me Crazy – Sammy Hagar (1983) 9. I Want Candy – Strangeloves (1965) 10. Tease Me Please Me – Scorpions (1990)

Haha yea, I think 72 acres will work.

Levis! Yea, this thread died sadly. Partially my fault. Quick run down of 2014 stuff you should know to this point: Phil Beaudreau's (from Shaimus) "Ether" is amazing. Catchy and well written. Nux Vomica's debut is easily the best metal album I've heard so far, some incredible black metal. The War On Drugs' lost in the dream is fantastic. Beautifully written, sounds like an ode to the 80s with a unique twist. Sounds Dire Straits like at times too. Yellow Ostrich's "Cosmos" is fantastic too, similar to Local Natives in sound. St. Vincent's new album is probably the best I've heard from her so far. Manchester Orchestra's new album "Cope" is just as good as I hoped it would be. Incredibly powerful. Those are just a few, go listen to them! And also to the albums Levis recommended.

In case anyone was wondering, I'm still alive. Just been very busy. Good news though: My wife, son and I are finally moving to our own place (sort of). To this point, we had been living with my parents. Now we're moving in with my grandmother to help take care of her. She lives in an old farmhouse (built in 1898) and we'll basically have the whole place to ourselves as she doesn't really leave her bedroom. Plus there's about 72 acres of land. So that'll be fun. Also, side note: went through my grandmother's attic the other day and found a copy of Paradise Lost from 1882. Also found an Alfred Lord Tennyson book from 1881. Curious how much they're worth now. Who knows what treasures I'll find in that house.

Also, there are waivers, which we haven't done in the past (but can, if that's what everyone wants).

Hey Can, just a suggestion, but right now, there is a maximum number of moves each team can make per week. We haven't done that in the past, we can do it if that's what everyone wants, but that's the default for Yahoo.

If you need any help, I know Yahoo's commissioner stuff pretty well. Just let me know if I can help.

I'm gonna join too! Thanks for taking over Can, I honestly was planning on making a league tomorrow, I've just been busy, but this makes things way easier.