PaulEdwardWagemann

BTW, PMac's 'with a little luck' was actually recorded aboard the motor yacht 'Fair Carol' just off the Virgin Islands...

Actually, Paul McCArtney's 'with a little luck' and Santana's 'I'm winning' and steve winwoods "If you see a chance take it' all sound suspiciously like yacht rock to me...or am I just imagining things here?

i'd like to add billy oceans 'carribean queen' and some bob marley. some jimmy buffet, and...uh 'JOhn B Sloop' and 'Kokomo' by the Beach Boyz...oh yeah, and 'rio' by double duran...

http://music.ign.com/articles/710/710545p1.html Doobie brothers, beach boys, steely dan, hall-n-oats, etc.

in your honest opinion?

I was a dust bin junkie throughout most of the 80s and then on into the 90s. There was no bigger thrill for me than spending 99 cents on a unheard of album that ended up being great. Or even having one or two great cuts. It was about as exiciting as being 8 years old, spending your weekly allowance on 3 packs of baseball cards and getting a Pete Rose or Cesar Geronimo... Over the years I've valued these unknown classics, lugging them off to college in heavyass milk crates each year, piling them in my trunk everytime I got kicked out of an apartment in the early 90s--realizing I could probablly sell them all off and pay for two or three months more rent, suffering the heartache of having one scratched or worbled bythe sun or ripped off by a vengeful ex-girlfriend--and then frantically scouring the record shops trying to replace it. Perhaps because of their rarity, they sound better. Or perhaps it its Rock snobbery "Look at me, I know all about this secret little masterpiece and no one else does, Nanny-nanny boo-booo" Whatever the case, I think its time we share our Unknown Classics with each other. I'll start off with a band called OddManOut who released their album Havana in 1990 on Frigid Air records out of Chicago. There are at least 5 of the 8 songs on this album (total running time is a bit under 36 minutes) that are good to very good, to damn near great. Only one song is a throw away, and two others I have to be in the right mood for. None of the band members are listed anywhere on the album. The liner notes simply read all songs arranged by Odd Man Out and produced by Phil Bonnet and Perry Bax. The cover has a green and white close-up photo of a merry-go round horse. The music is typical of the atypical college rock radio of the late 80's. Theres more than a few hints of U2, the Fall and Echo and the Bunnymen, especially in the lead singer's voice and phrasings. Theres also some cool jangly guitar riffs popping in and out all over the place and unexpected harmonica or keyboard layers weaved in. Most of the songs are dancible to, and could seamlessly have been inserted into any mid to late 80s Teen movie Prom scene, possibly staring Nicolas Cage or Robert Downey Jr. The main problem I have with the couple songs that I dont like are that they overdue the melodrama on the synthesizer a tad bit. Still I regard this as a great album that nobody seems to know about.

Pipers at the Gates of Dawn is the only PF I love. WIsh you were here and Dark side of the moon are good. Most everything else is 'Meh'...

Actually I'd like to be taken to court and sued for damages. This woudl give me the chance to point out that illegal downloading actally helps a band (by creating an audiance for them who otherwise never would have hear thier muisc). Illgal downloading makes money for the artists. The artists themselves only make a coupdl of pennies for every CD that is sold. The real people you are hurting ar the CEOs and corporate RIAA stiffs in the corporate music industry, and they are a bunch of jerks anyway, so screw 'em!

piracy smiracy--no one I know has ever been sent to prison for downloading songs off the internet. All I'm saying is, if you want them, I've probablly got them...

edna, I got oldies coming out my whatoosie. If you told me what you want I could use YSI (you send it) to post them on a message board and then you could download them. Give me an idea of what you'd want...I go all the way back to the 60s and even some 50s.

But you admit that I'm beautiful, right?

Hmm, interesting. We dont ever see them in the same room together, do we? Actually that's because Mitty is my stalker. If youve never had a stalker before, I highly recommend it. They go around following you everywhere, trying to pester you. The fact thaty they have no life of their own is kind of sad, so you jsut sorta play along and throw them a little Scoobie-snak every so often and pat them on the head, and they're pretty harmless. Unless they are holding a copy of the Cather in the Rye. In which case: RRRRRRRUUUUUNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN!!

First of all: Dont hate me because I'm beautiful. Secondly, what on God's green earth are you talking about? Third...uh, um, your mother wears army boots... Now Good day sir!

Sorry, i have no idea what you are talking about. Wanna quit being elusive and just tell me--I mean this kinda of cutesy stuff my be interesting for teeny boppers, but it just bores me. Either get to the point or take a hike.

Tell me what you're looking for and I bet I can tell you how to get it online for free...

Isnt it much easier to download music than to find it on CD in India? As for word of mouth, that will sell some, but there are also zines that review independent artists and then ofcourse there is internet message boards. The good thing about the internet is if you do a little diggin you can find communitees that will turn you on to good music. People like you will be recommending music for you to listen to instead of some corporate marketing team that is only interested in making a buck...

I dont know what that last comment means. I also dont know why you assume MySPace is the only place artists can post their songs. And even if ot were, the MySpce people have no say over what the artists do. They dont even ever mmet the artists. MaySpace si simply replacing the Dsitribution step in the artitst-to-fan process. The artists has moe control because he is paying for the production himself. He is getting his music accessed by millions (basically for free) and he is able to network (again basically for free). These are all steps in the right direction and will hopefully make the record labels obsolete.

Still, its a step in the right direction. Murdoch does not have control over the artists like a major label mogal does...

youre right, but they arent as bad as major labels. There are some indie lables that are more concerend about he music than the money. I'm not a fan of digital equipment, but one good thing about it is that it is making it less neccesary for an artist to have to be on a label if they want to make music. ProTools and such are becoming increasingly affordable so that kids can record music in their basements in the morning then post their songs on the internet for millions to hear that night. My hope is that labels will some day become obsolete.

No, but it comes pretty close--probablly about 99% anyways...

'Most Popular' doesnt eqaute to 'best' But the term corporate rock came about from the arena rock and stadium rock of the 70s. Corporate Rock means rock that is on a major label that is beign touted in the mainstream magazines and on mainstream radio--mainly because a parent company also owns the radio stations, the magazines, the cable tv stations, etc where the band is being touted.

What's there to respond to? I'm not daying all music since the 80's is corporate Rock--that WOULD be idiotic. And I dont even know where you are coming up with that notion from? So my responses is: (--insert scoobie-doo impersonation here--) ARrrrrrrrrrrrrnnnnnn???

Which post do you want me to respond to?

As far as mainstream pop music goes, it seems like the early 80s where alot of synth/dance pop, then the mid 80s was corporate rock and hair metal, and the late 80s was hip hop/rap. But are their any folks here who were fans of college rock radio in the 80s? The Replacements, REM, camper van beethoven, etc??? That;s the scene I'd really liek to hear about...

Nothing says "I'm a pimply-faced teenager" quite as quickly as "Meh"... "Egad" on the otherhand says "I'm an uptight sissyfoot"--its nearly equivilent to a *gasp* followed up by a "Well I never..."